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re: Science is debunking itself again
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:46 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:46 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
If you mean evolution to be so broad as to mean change.. of course.
But to say we evolved from another species....
But to say we evolved from another species....
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:49 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Again, you don't know what you're talking about.
There's no such thing.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:53 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Au contraire.
I don't know what to tell you.
You've told more than you realize.
You're telling me you are the one not reading others' posts ... or you're clueless as to their content.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:02 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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It's a discrepancy between two ways to measure the expansion of the universe that will likely be resolved when we get better data as there are new ways that will be used to get a measurement.
How about we quit throwing together BS theories and presenting them as fact to young minds. Just skip the big band and evolution altogether.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:05 pm to dafif
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If you mean evolution to be so broad as to mean change.. of course.
Of course it's of course.
The problem is when people get emotional about scientific theories.
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to say we evolved from another species
First you would have to define specifically what a "species" is. It starts getting a little cloudy when you start decoding genomes. That's why both Watson and Crick's work, as well as decoding the human genome at the end of the 20th century have so far supported Darwin's theory of natural selection to explain evolution.
That is not to say something won't come along later to disprove it.
Human beings demand certainties, science deals in probabilities.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:06 pm to GumboPot
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The climate science and vaccine industry does not approach science like this. Climate science and the vaccine industry approach science by developing a model and mold data to fit model and declare, IT'S SCIENCE!
Lumping vaccines and climate science together is exactly what I would expect from a moron like you
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:17 pm to NC_Tigah
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You're telling me you are the one not reading others' posts
I've read the responses to my original post ITT, but I haven't read the whole thread - this time.
But it really doesn't matter because people continue to make the same error over and over again that they always make in these threads: mistaking evolution as the theory instead of recognizing natural selection as being the theory to explain the phenomenon of evolution.
The problem is that people think Darwin's theory conflicts with their religious beliefs even though Darwin himself was a devout Christian and didn't see at all how his theory of natural selection conflicted with his religion. Galileo also didn't see how his theory of heliocentrism conflicted with his religion - but the Pope sure got emotional and irrational over the issue.
Once someone perceives that their religious beliefs are challenged, they very often get emotional and lose rational thought.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:23 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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science deals in probabilities.
So it's an odd game. "How long can I peddle nonsense until someone calls me on it...I mean, I had a really really good feeling about that theory."
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:25 pm to NC_Tigah
BTW...
Not necessarily, sometimes it is referred to as an, "observable phenomenon".
And yes, I understand the difference between hypothesis, theory and law.
But there is still uncertainty at the bottom of all scientific laws.
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When something in science is fact...it is referred to as Scientific Law.
Not necessarily, sometimes it is referred to as an, "observable phenomenon".
And yes, I understand the difference between hypothesis, theory and law.
But there is still uncertainty at the bottom of all scientific laws.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:25 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Darwin's theory conflicts with their religious beliefs
Darwin's Theory is a religious belief.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:27 pm to dafif
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If you mean evolution to be so broad as to mean change.. of course.
So adaptations then?
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:28 pm to ThuperThumpin
The scientist are referenced in the video I posted.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:29 pm to Herooftheday
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So it's an odd game. "How long can I peddle nonsense until someone calls me on it.
No, it's application of the scientific theory over and over again. All of the experimental data can be pointing to the same conclusion for generations, then someone conducts an experiment that provides data that runs counter to the prevailing theory, and that theory is either revised to account for the new data, or it is disproved if it cannot reconcile with the new data.
After all, Sir Isaac Newton was close.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:34 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Using similar logic, Larry David presumed Elon Musk to support child murder.
I've read the responses to my original post ITT, but I haven't read the whole thread - this time.
But it really doesn't matter because people continue to make the same error over and over again that they always make in these threads: mistaking evolution as the theory instead of recognizing natural selection as being the theory to explain the phenomenon of evolution.
The problem is that people think Darwin's theory conflicts with their religious beliefs even though Darwin himself was a devout Christian and didn't see at all how his theory of natural selection conflicted with his religion. Galileo also didn't see how his theory of heliocentrism conflicted with his religion - but the Pope sure got emotional and irrational over the issue.
Once someone perceives that their religious beliefs are challenged, they very often get emotional and lose rational thought.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:34 pm to GumboPot
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Math can be manipulated too by the inclusion of indeterminate forms to make the model work.
No doubt by me.
I don't personally know the scientists working out simulation theory and I certainly didn't know Charles Darwin.
I don't see any financial incentive for them to lie about it (like the climate alarmists). I've never heard that big corporate research is pouring money into simulation. It's possible but how would money be made proving up the simulation. It's not like humans can change anything about it.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:36 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Excuse me?
But there is still uncertainty at the bottom of all scientific laws.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:37 pm to Herooftheday
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Darwin's Theory is a religious belief.
No, it really isn't. It's the result of analyzing the data from empirical experimentation to test the hypothesis, "Life evolved through natural selection."
Darwin was a Unitarian that undertook the voyage on the Beagle in order to locate "centers of creation". It was while he was on the voyage that he hypothesized that life may have evolved through natural selection due to the phenomena he was observing personally.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:45 pm to NC_Tigah
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Excuse me?
Call 1-800-Heisenburg.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:52 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:No. No. Sorry.
Call 1-800-Heisenburg.
What is the uncertainty at the bottom of Henry's Law?
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:54 pm to Mo Jeaux
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You think evolution will be “debunked”?
There’s no good evidence of true evolution, where one kind becomes something totally different than the original life form. There are many examples of species adaptations.
Give me irrefutable evidence of a life form that’s evolved from a primitive state, say like a single cell or even a sea creature that’s evolved to a more complex form of life where the steps of evolution are documented incrementally in some type of fossil records. You’re not gonna find it.
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