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re: Science Increasingly Makes the Case for God--WSJ--Eric Metaxas
Posted on 1/1/15 at 6:44 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 1/1/15 at 6:44 pm to Roger Klarvin
Ok, interesting! I appreciate the insight you just provided... 
Aww c'mon that's a bit of a stretch to compare the two...you can own up to that can't you?
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I just cannot force myself to believe in Santa anymore.
Aww c'mon that's a bit of a stretch to compare the two...you can own up to that can't you?
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Posted on 1/1/15 at 6:45 pm to Revelator
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To know that this short 50,60, 70.. years is all one has and then nothing. To me, that's the definition of waste.
Because that's life.
You make the most of it while you can.
I have a kick arse husky dog.
Sometimes it depresses the shite out of me that I am only going to get him for 10 to 12 years because he is that fun to be around.
I make the most of the time I do get with him.
Life is the same way. You make time for the things that are important while you still can because life goes by quickly and before you know it it will pass you.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 6:46 pm to Crimson1st
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I just cannot force myself to believe in Santa anymore.
Aww c'mon that's a bit of a stretch to compare the two...you can own up to that can't you?
Not at all. Adults use Santa as a way to explain why presents magically show up under the tree on christmas day as long as you are a good kid....
...it's a mythology we created to explain something kids don't understand.
It's really no different at all.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 1/1/15 at 6:52 pm to asurob1
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Life is the same way. You make time for the things that are important while you still can because life goes by quickly and before you know it it will pass you.
I think one can make the most out of their life within the confines of Christianity.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 1/1/15 at 6:53 pm to asurob1
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Sorry. No. People throughout time have created various god myths to explain the unexplainable. This is phenomenon is nothing new or particularly different...
That's the thing about science. It slowly but surely strips away the magic of the world and offers up hard won knowledge.
Refuting the existence of some intelligent guy who created us gets easier with each passing discovery about the world around us.
We have barely scratched the surface.
I don't think you are thinking big enough.
You are being small minded about this.
If we have barely scratched the surface as you believe (and I agree) and you see all these incredible, virtually impossible, unexplainable things that have apparently happened to get us where we are then why can there not be a God??
How can you be so sure of yourself?
Why have billions throughout time believed in greater being? How you so much more insightful than them?
I see these things and am humbled. I can't explain and am not capable of proving a God to you or proving one doesn't exist to any other believer.
In the eyes of the author of the piece what science is finding is in the eyes of many making previous theories of creation less possible.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 1/1/15 at 6:53 pm to Crimson1st
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Aww c'mon that's a bit of a stretch to compare the two...you can own up to that can't you?
I'm not comparing the depth of the beliefs themselves. Obviously Christianity is far more complex than Santa Clause. I was simply illustrating my inability to believe in a way those who believe in God can understand. Everyone knows what its like to stop believing in Santa, and you cant force yourself to believe again knowing what you currently know.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 6:53 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:You're talking about a monk of some sort? Or a Buddhist self-immolator?
I'm not sure how. I can't think of anything more terrible than genuinely devoting one's entire life to false idea.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 1/1/15 at 6:55 pm to BestStop
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Roger Klarvin I'd question your sincere belief in the first place.
Most do when I tell my story.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 6:58 pm to NC_Tigah
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You're talking about a monk of some sort? Or a Buddhist self-emolulator
I agree that most Christians are part-time in their faith. Which makes no sense. If you truly believed that God was up there and cared about you, you wouldn't be an accountant or watch football or play video games or whatever. You would be a devout border line hermit missionary.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 6:58 pm to NC_Tigah
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You're talking about a monk of some sort? Or a Buddhist self-emolulator?
Well those would be extreme examples, but yeah
I was thinking more along the lines of the devout catholic who attends Mass most days of the week, spends most their life worried about dying in a state of mortal sin, worried about relatives who might be in Hell, etc. Or the protestant pastor who sacrifices his entire life and the majority of earthly pleasures in order to spread the Gospel.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:00 pm to Hester Carries
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I agree that most Christians are part-time in their faith. Which makes no sense. If you truly believed that God was up there and cared about you, you wouldn't be an accountant or watch football or play video games or whatever. You would be a devout border line hermit missionary.
I'd like to disagree with this because it sounds like an absurd internet atheist argument, but the reality is that is how New Testament Christians lived. Literally ALL of the early church fathers were 100% all in, with every moment of their lives focused on doing God's will.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:00 pm to Hester Carries
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I agree that most Christians are part-time in their faith. Which makes no sense. If you truly believed that God was up there and cared about you, you wouldn't be an accountant or watch football or play video games or whatever. You would be a devout border line hermit missionary.
This is nonsense. Even Jesus took time to go to weddings, fish, travel.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:01 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Most do when I tell my story
Did you ever feel the presence of the Holy Spirit?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:03 pm to Revelator
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This is nonsense. Even Jesus took time to go to weddings, fish, travel.
Yeah but he was god
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:06 pm to Hester Carries
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:07 pm to Hester Carries
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Yeah but he was god
Making my point. Even God took time off from ministry, how much more would weak humans.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:08 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:So what is the difference between peace of mind gained that way vs an atheist practicing daily meditation?
I was thinking more along the lines of the devout catholic who attends Mass most days of the week,
Seriously?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:08 pm to asurob1
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Not at all. Adults use Santa as a way to explain why presents magically show up under the tree on christmas day as long as you are a good kid.... ...it's a mythology we created to explain something kids don't understand. It's really no different at all.
So much fail in this post...come on asurob1, I know you can troll better than this!
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:09 pm to I B Freeman
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If we have barely scratched the surface as you believe (and I agree) and you see all these incredible, virtually impossible, unexplainable things that have apparently happened to get us where we are then why can there not be a God??
As I have said...prove it.
It's that simple.
There is no all powerful force that has a personal interest in you me or anyone...never mind that he took the time to set up conditions to be "just right" so these ugly bags of flesh (pink monkeys) can dominate this single planet on the edge of 1 among the many many galaxies in the "known" university.
Sorry, not buying it.
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Why have billions throughout time believed in greater being?
Same reason we have the flat earth society, people who think dinosaurs and humans roamed the earth together and of course people who are afraid to vaccinate their kids.
A sucker is born every minute.
Don't get me wrong as I have said before...faith is great and I admire anyone with that kind of dogma...no matter how foolish I think it is.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 7:10 pm to Revelator
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This is nonsense. Even Jesus took time to go to weddings, fish, travel.
don't forget wine creation.
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