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re: Saudis Close to Clown Prince Discussed Killing Other Enemies Year Before Khashoggi’s Death

Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:09 pm to
Posted by Bourre
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:09 pm to
So do you want to be the world’s policeman or not?
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:10 pm to
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Top Saudi intelligence officials close to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman asked a small group of businessmen last year about using private companies to assassinate Iranian enemies


You really buy this?
Posted by KingOrange
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:11 pm to
His name is Seth Rich
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:15 pm to
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Why are the domestic issues of the Saudis or a small foreign affair between Saudi Arabia and Turkey front page news in the United States?
For one, Turkey is a NATO member. Should Turkey and Saudi Arabia start shooting at each other the U.S. is obligated by our NATO membership to aid Turkey militarily against SA.

That could get dicey real quick if SA’s oil exports get restricted.
Posted by junkfunky
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:15 pm to
Weird how they just started doing things like this.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:24 pm to
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Mr. Nader and Mr. Zamel enlisted Erik Prince, the former head of Blackwater and an adviser to the Trump transition team. They had already discussed elements of their plan with Mr. Prince, in a meeting when they learned of his own paramilitary proposals that he planned to try to sell to the Saudis. A spokesman for Mr. Prince, Marc Cohen, declined to give specifics about the meeting but said that Mr. Prince had no discussions with Saudis about assassinations.

In a suite on one of the top floors of the Mandarin Oriental hotel in New York, Mr. Zamel and Mr. Nader spoke to General Assiri and his aides about their Iran plan. The Saudis were interested in the idea but said it was so provocative and potentially destabilizing that they wanted to get the approval of the incoming Trump administration before Saudi Arabia paid for the campaign.

After Mr. Trump was inaugurated in January 2017, Mr. Nader met frequently with White House officials to discuss the economic sabotage plan.


I can’t keep up with all of the schemes these guys have been involved in.
Posted by Nguyener
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:40 pm to
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For one, Turkey is a NATO member.


Ah yes. NATO. The North Atlantic-Turkey Organization
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:43 pm to
So what do you want the US to do about it?
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:47 pm to
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So what do you want the US to do about it?


About MBS? Nader and Zamal?
Posted by jchamil
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:52 pm to
They were obviously emboldened by the Trump election and just started killing each other in the Middle East for the first time in the history of the world
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:52 pm to
So...not the CP?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:59 pm to
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About MBS? Nader and Zamal?



Sure
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:09 pm to
I think Congress will be looking sanction the regime if the Trump admin doesn't get their response together soon. I think there are enough Republican Senators that will want action if Trump refuses to do much. Stopping support for the Yemen war could be another lever.

I'm pretty sure that Nader is in the Mueller program now, not sure of Zamel's level of cooperation. Not worried about these guys.

Prince could have some complications ahead.

This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 9:13 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:11 pm to
So why do we need to sanction these people for killing one of their own in their own embassy in Turkey?
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:13 pm to
Rules
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:15 pm to
Which ones?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:15 pm to
Yeah, that's not an answer
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:19 pm to
Sure it is. Rules-based international order. That's how we do it. You break the rules you pay.

You don't lure a Washington Post columnist into your embassy to kill them and not expect consequences.
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 9:21 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:21 pm to
What rules? That's still an ambiguous non-answer. Not that I'm expecting you to actually answer the question.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:26 pm to
It's something you can google if you are not familiar with the concept.
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