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re: Satanic Temple puts up display at Michigan Capital
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:12 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:12 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
it's possible. the original bible had a serpent in the Adam/Eve sotry and it didn't represent Satan. that's likely the symbolic representation (misunderstanding of the original biblical texts by revisionist Christians, hence the "knowledge" statement)
Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:13 am to NC_Tigah
quote:Sorry that post hit close to home. I made a response to the ridiculous assertion that this country's belief in a Christian god is like a neighbor's faux-belief in Santa. I know you see examples of those very occurrences on this board and in the news every other day so it must be tough for you to defend all of that ignorance in the name of religion without getting butthurt. Prayers sent.
Pertinence of that terribly butthurt hypothetical to the topic at hand?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:14 am to Blue Velvet
you're replying to someone who thinks atheism is a religion
probably wasting your time
probably wasting your time
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:14 am to Blue Velvet
quote:I'm gonna have to call you out on this. I just genuinely don't believe that you will be sending prayers.
Prayers sent.
I mean, I like you, I just really felt that I had to let him know that prayers probably aren't going to be sent.
Hope we can remain friends.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:16 am to FT
i pray evrytiem
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:17 am to NC_Tigah
quote:You rest? That's pretty dumb.
Your what?
. . . I rest my case.
While I may not believe in god, I have plenty of beliefs about other things. In particular, since I have a degree in physics, I have a lot of informed beliefs about cosmology. "Infinite existence of inanimate objects," or however you put it, does not describe those beliefs.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:18 am to Pettifogger
A fact is verifiable. (Water is wet is a fact)
A belief is unverifiable. (The Patriots will win next week is a belief)
A belief is unverifiable. (The Patriots will win next week is a belief)
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:20 am to Revelator
quote:Dude, do you even know the history of your own religion's text? Genesis vs Revelation, man. Which was written first? How long before the other was it written?
Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
That's the entire point that's being made here, and you completely missed it.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:21 am to Porkchop Express
quote:
A fact is verifiable. (Water is wet is a fact)
A belief is unverifiable. (The Patriots will win next week is a belief)
What?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:22 am to Revelator
quote:
Revelation
Ahh, yes. The most credible and truthy part of the bible.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 10:25 am
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:22 am to FT
quote:Well I received my prayer from him. You didn't get yours? Hmm maybe you aren't friends after all.
I'm gonna have to call you out on this. I just genuinely don't believe that you will be sending prayers.
I mean, I like you, I just really felt that I had to let him know that prayers probably aren't going to be sent.
Hope we can remain friends.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:23 am to Tigerlaff
quote:Look at his username.
Are, yes. The most credible and truthy part of the bible.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 10:24 am
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:32 am to Pettifogger
An atheist bases things on facts.
A Christian bases things on beliefs.
Facts are verifiable. Beliefs are unverifiable.
A Christian bases things on beliefs.
Facts are verifiable. Beliefs are unverifiable.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:32 am to monsterballads
quote:Wrong! What is not honest is claiming the choice of one thing or another is not a choice.
it's splitting hairs, but that's not honest.
The argument that atheists are on the one hand a science-based group, and on the other are not remotely intellectually curious, is ridiculous.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:34 am to Porkchop Express
quote:Depends on the timeline.
A fact is verifiable. (Water is wet is a fact)
A belief is unverifiable. (The Patriots will win next week is a belief)
Faith is trust prior to verification.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:34 am to NC_Tigah
atheism is not a religion nor is it a belief. why is it that christians try to put non-believers on the same level as christianity?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:35 am to Porkchop Express
quote:
An atheist bases things on facts.
A Christian bases things on beliefs.
Facts are verifiable. Beliefs are unverifiable.
I'd like to introduce you to the concept of wild generalizations.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:36 am to Hog on the Hill
quote:
Look at his username.
I know Revelator's deal. I have to admit, for someone with beliefs as extreme and unsettling as his, he does his best to state his position in a respectful and honest way. I admire that. Totally unlike S.E.C. Crazy, Redbone, and the their ilk.
Rev would likely say that, to him, Revelations is the revealed Truth. Thus, the fact that it came way after genesis and just happens to connect a snake (hands down the most reviled creature by humans to begin with) and Satan, is of little importance. Truth is Truth and the author's motives need not be questioned because he believes it is more than a man-made, drug-addled rant.
Rev, if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:36 am to monsterballads
quote:
atheism is not a religion nor is it a belief. why is it that christians try to put non-believers on the same level as christianity?
Because militant and evangelical atheists exist? It's a mindset elevated to a religion for some. You can hold firm to a semantic position if you like, but practically speaking atheism is certainly "religion-like" for a lot of folks.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:36 am to FooManChoo
quote:
Faith is trust prior to verification.
the one making the claim has the responsibility to verify it, do they not?
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