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Posted on 4/1/22 at 8:26 am to Catchfalaya
If Russia was the only country that possessed nuclear technology, that would be a brilliant strategy. Since they aren't, that strategy has existential ramifications. No way in hell that happens. The only way a nuclear bomb ever gets used in a hostile situation is if a terrorist group gets ahold of one. Or alien invasion.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 8:28 am to JJJimmyJimJames
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one of these things is not like the other
I was simply referring to radiation issues, and chernobyl is like 45 minutes from Kiev.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 8:41 am to Catchfalaya
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Nuke them
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Move back in
You don't move back in after a nuclear strike.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 9:08 am to NC_Tigah
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Unprovoked!"
A yarn brought to you by the same people who swore Hunter's Laptop was Russian disinformation, and Michael Avenatti was a truth broker.
Can you point to an act of aggression that Ukraine did to provoke Russia?
I’ll even accept news from Russian state media as a source
Posted on 4/1/22 at 9:15 am to Catchfalaya
There still is a large force dug in on the NW side. It is possible that it could be cut off from supply routes other than by air.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 9:15 am to Catchfalaya
Did the doctor drop you on your head when you were born?
Posted on 4/1/22 at 9:18 am to Spitfire
quote:This guy gets it. Russia does not want western Ukraine. They just want the Donbas. Will do their level best to seize eastern Ukraine up to the Dneiper River. Create a buffer state and send a message.
The Russians are keeping the troops tied up near Kiev with the fake invasion of the city preventing the Ukrainian troops from moving east to support the Dombas region. Manuever warfare. The West knows exactly what the Russians are up to although they spout idiocy on CNN.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 9:43 am to Catchfalaya
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Withdraw your forces to make sure they are not in the blasts radius. Make your enemy concentrate forces together. Nuke them. Move back in and take [Ash Pile]
Posted on 4/1/22 at 10:39 am to Jake88
quote:Like Cuba?
What was the provocation? A sovereign country seeking protection?
War is the failure of diplomacy, WE -- the US and NATO -- badly underestimated seriousness of the Russian position. WE -- the US and NATO -- spun the stupidity that Russia would tolerate the world's largest military alliance setting up camp immediately across its western border. WE -- the US and NATO -- ignored the military importance of a borderlands buffer in Russian history. From the Russian POV, had Napoleon, or Hitler been able to initiate their quests from Kharkiv instead of Warsaw, Russia would have been reduced to occupation, and defeat.
That you still don't accept this as a predicate for war is stupefying. It's demonstrative of how deeply inculcating US propaganda can be.
The FACT NATO was the predicate for war is not even debatable at this point. Recognizing the fact neither speaks to its legitimacy nor insinuates NATO had military designs on attacking Russia. But from Russia's standpoint, they've been fooled twice by large would-be peaceful western military alliances. In the last instance, Russia's threat miscalculation came at a cost of 23 million lives (roughly 50X the US WWII cost). It's a mistake they don't intend to repeat.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 5:07 pm to xxTIMMYxx
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The withdrawal is part of negotiations, so everything you just said is wrong
I'm sorry but that is a naïve statement. Russia is withdrawing from Kyiv and Chernihiv for operational reasons. They have determined that they lack the manpower and resources to take both cities much less encircle them. They are moving their forces east due to a strategic pivot out of necessity and using that to score negotiating points for free.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 5:54 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:That you find an equivalence is ridiculous.
Like Cuba?
quote:My point is that it is not a just predicate. They don't truly fear NATO invasion, they want Ukraine as a reserve state for potential future needs.
That you still don't accept this as a predicate for war is stupefying. It's demonstrative of how deeply inculcating US propaganda can be.
quote:They were the world's focus of evil for half of the last century. They have been despicable aggressors, not NATO. NATO is what they have sown. They know the world has changed yet this is an excuse made as if it is still the 1940s.
But from Russia's standpoint, they've been fooled twice by large would-be peaceful western military alliances. In the last instance, Russia's threat miscalculation came at a cost of 23 million lives (roughly 50X the US WWII cost)
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