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re: Russia says any peacekeeping troops must be from Non NATO Countries

Posted on 3/16/25 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 2:49 pm to
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maybe some peacekeepers from Greenland...

They will be nato before Ukraine when we buy them
Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 2:50 pm to
there is a lot of Gaza types proficient with guns that need a new home.
Posted by pecxs
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 2:51 pm to
UN Peacekeepers.
Posted by Bengalbio
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 2:53 pm to
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It would most likely have to be China. I don’t like China, but they would be more trustworthy than any NATO force.


This guy also TikToks.
Posted by Bengalbio
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 2:56 pm to
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I only mentioned China in regards to trusting them more than Europe.


I can't imagine Europeans want Chinese patrolling. That's just silly. Maybe we can welcome the Chinese to patrol the Panama Canal or ensure maritime traffic through the Arctic.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 2:58 pm to
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Maybe we can welcome the Chinese to patrol the Panama Canal
IS THIS SARCASM ?
Posted by Narax
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:04 pm to
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Honestly, I’m for no peacekeeping troops at all, from any nation. I’m for a long lasting peace.


Peacekeepers kept Egypt/Israel calm, South Korea/North Korea.

It works.

No peacekeepers and no DMZ means that theyd be at war again in 15 minutes.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:06 pm to
You mean Saudi slaves. Saudis don't work.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:07 pm to
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Chinese or Vietnamese


My three were

South Korea= US Friendly(gave artillery to Ukraine)

Vietnam = More Russia Friendly


Saudi Arabia = Neutral

Very well balanced group of Peacekeepers. But since we all know you are a dumbass Owl I had AI give me a breakdown.....




Evaluating the potential effectiveness of South Korea, Vietnam, and Saudi Arabia as peacekeepers in post-war Ukraine involves analyzing their unique strengths, challenges, and geopolitical contexts. Here's a structured assessment:

### **South Korea**
**Strengths**:
- **Resources and Experience**: Advanced military technology, robust training, and participation in UN missions (e.g., Lebanon, South Sudan).
- **Economic Capacity**: Could support reconstruction through financial aid or technical expertise.
- **Global Alignment**: Strong ties with Western allies, aligning with Ukraine’s post-war needs.

**Challenges**:
- **Perceived Neutrality**: Close US alliance and tensions with Russia (due to North Korea ties) might hinder acceptance by Moscow.
- **Domestic Factors**: Public opinion may influence long-term commitment.

**Rating**: 7/10
*Strong capabilities but potential neutrality concerns.*

---

### **Vietnam**
**Strengths**:
- **Neutrality**: Non-aligned foreign policy and balanced relations with Russia/West could foster trust from both Ukraine and Russia.
- **Post-Conflict Experience**: Historical resilience and recent UN peacekeeping contributions (e.g., South Sudan).

**Challenges**:
- **Limited Resources**: Smaller-scale deployments and fewer financial means compared to SK or Saudi Arabia.
- **Bureaucratic Hurdles**: Less institutional experience in large multilateral missions.

**Rating**: 6/10
*Valuable neutrality but constrained by capacity.*

---

### **Saudi Arabia**
**Strengths**:
- **Financial Power**: Capacity to fund reconstruction and peacekeeping logistics.
- **Diplomatic Leverage**: OPEC+ ties with Russia could facilitate dialogue; recent efforts to diversify alliances (e.g., mediating Ukraine-Russia prisoner swaps).

**Challenges**:
- **Credibility Issues**: Involvement in Yemen and perceived authoritarianism may undermine legitimacy.
- **Regional Priorities**: Focus on Middle Eastern stability could divert attention.

**Rating**: 5/10
*Resource-rich but faces significant credibility gaps.*

---

### **Combined Assessment (Mixture)**
1. **Complementary Strengths**:
- South Korea’s resources and Vietnam’s neutrality could balance Saudi Arabia’s financial and diplomatic clout.
- Diverse geopolitical ties (pro-West SK, non-aligned Vietnam, Russia-friendly Saudi) might bridge divides.

2. **Challenges**:
- Coordination complexities due to differing foreign policies.
- Saudi Arabia’s contentious reputation could overshadow contributions.

3. **Overall Potential**:
- If managed under a unified UN framework, this mix could offer a multifaceted approach to peacekeeping and reconstruction. However, success hinges on mitigating neutrality disputes and ensuring cohesive collaboration.

**Composite Rating**: 6/10
*A pragmatic combination with notable synergies but requiring careful diplomatic navigation.*



Not bad....Not bad at all
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:13 pm to
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I only mentioned China in regards to trusting them more than Europ


Agreed, Russia trusts them more than Europe...

quote:

Europe has been sending Weapons,Weapon Systems, Tanks, Artillery, Aircraft and money.


quote:

Al Jazeera
LINK › News › Military
5 days ago — Iran, Russia and China have begun joint naval drills in the Gulf of Oman, marking the fifth year the three countries have conducted military ...


quote:

China secretly sends enough gear to Russia to equip an army
politico.eu
LINK › article › china-firms-russia-bo...
Jul 24, 2023 — Russian buyers have declared orders for hundreds of thousands of bulletproof vests and helmets made by Shanghai H Win.


quote:

US imposes first sanctions on Chinese firms for making ...
CNN
LINK › 2024/10/18 › china › us-sanctio...
Oct 18, 2024 — The United States has imposed sanctions on two China-based drone suppliers and their alleged Russian partners, the first time it has penalized Chinese ...


quote:

'Clear evidence' Chinese companies supplying Russia with ...
Sky News
LINK › story › clear-evidence-chinese-c...
Sep 27, 2024 — There is clear evidence that Chinese companies are supplying military attack drones to Russia for the war in Ukraine, a Western official has told Sky News.


quote:

US accuses China of giving 'very substantial' help to Russia's ...
politico.eu
LINK › article › united-states-accuse-c...
Sep 10, 2024 — In exchange for Beijing's help, Russia has started giving China submarine, missile and other sensitive technologies.


And in case you think this is all deep state psyops

quote:

US challenges British claim China is sending 'lethal aid' to ...
The Guardian
LINK › world › article › may
May 22, 2024 — Previously, China has been accused by Washington of providing critical components used by Russia's military since its 2022 full-scale invasion ...


China is not a neutral party, and any claims to that are lies.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:15 pm to
not bad but it's hardly your own


But I will put right back at you why put China in charge of a mineral-rich region that the precious metals are a vital economic export, and you'd be turning over those to the Chinese

While at the same time having South Korean troops moved away from South Korea where there's the DMZ zone and an unstable North Korean government

And Saudi Arabian troops that are Muslim, ignoring the possibilities of that creating problems but Saudi Arabia is a stabilizing force in the Middle East and the things going on in Israel and Gaza in Syria right now aren't exactly calm

and I see you opinion changed since the OP where you CLEARLY mentioned China...
So I will piggyback off the previous poster that posted out China has been involved in supplying materials

and address Vietnam,, not as problematic as China But still a communist government why are you so intent on putting Communist troops in the Ukraine Given the history of communism in the Ukraine you're introducing problems that don't need to be brought in when you're trying to cool down a region and bring peace not more war


I say Canada, Mexico, Australia, Polish Russia should not dictate who keeps the peace in the Ukraine
Trump can make tariff concessions with both Canada and Mexico as they pick up the defense cost and continue to trade with them providing supplies

but also guarantee of American companies getting the contract for the raw materials in the Ukraine thereby at least softening somewhat a protection against the investment already made


This post was edited on 3/16/25 at 3:25 pm
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:19 pm to
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China is not a neutral party, and any claims to that are lies


I never claimed they were neutral. I said they did not send Weapons, Weapon Systems, Tanks, Aircraft, Artillery, Money to Russia. All the links you provided showed no items I just listed that China provided to Russia. You know who did provide the items I listed to Ukraine? Europe.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:19 pm to
Mujahideen soldiers from Afghanistan would be the best choice.

Neither Russia nor the US want to tango with them baws.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:21 pm to
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But I will put right back at you why put China in charge of a mineral-rich region


Where do you see China in my list? My List was

South Korea
Vietnam
Saudi Arabia
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7917 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:22 pm to
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Evaluating the potential effectiveness of South Korea, Vietnam, and Saudi Arabia as peacekeepers in post-war Ukraine involves analyzing their unique strengths, challenges, and geopolitical contexts. Here's a structured assessment:


### **Tiananmen square **
- ** Nothing happened in Tiananmen square, no one has ever been there.
- ** Tiananmen square has never existed , all glory to Chairman Mao
- ** And if anyone was at Tiananmen square then they deserved whatever happened to them.
- ** Nothing happened in Tiananmen square, no one has ever been there.


Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7917 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:24 pm to
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I never claimed they were neutral. I said they did not send Weapons, Weapon Systems, Tanks, Aircraft, Artillery, Money to Russia. All the links you provided showed no items I just listed that China provided to Russia. You know who did provide the items I listed to Ukraine? Europe.


You said:
quote:

This seems reasonable. I don't believe China has provided Russia with any Weapons or Weapon Systems like Europe/NATO has provided to Ukraine. Maybe a combination of Australian and Chinese Troops would be a fair compromise for Peacekeeping Troops in Ukraine


While I agree that they have not provided specific weapon systems, they are still far too non neutral for peacekeepers.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:25 pm to
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Where do you see China in my list? My List was
in the first post on this thread
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:26 pm to
So MAGA is teaming up with Russia and China?

Posted by OWLFAN86
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Member since Jun 2004
196556 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:28 pm to
He just finds tweets that he thinks are smarter than he can ever be and shares them like he understands it

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:31 pm to
This might be a Jjdoc alter, after he got busted fundraising for Obama and the Clintons.
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