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Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:32 pm to JudgeHolden
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Giuliani cannot sue Dominion (a private actor) for infringing on his free speech.
There are limits on defamation law that are constitutionally based.
But are they not a public contractor?
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:34 pm to Dizz
quote:Yeah defamation is harder than people realize because you have to allege malice, you have to show what someone thought. You're allowed to be wrong and say things that aren't true but you cant knowingly and intentionally lie.
I am curious to see how uses the vigorous representation of his client as a defense since he never pled or argued anything about Dominion in court.
So Dominion will have to show that Rudy knew there was no fraud and said there was anyway.
Unfortunately for Rudy they can do that, they come out swinging, saying Rudy was "unwilling to make false claims" in court where he knew the repercussions. He clearly knew there was a line.
This post was edited on 1/25/21 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:35 pm to WDE24
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That’s weird considering I’m dealing with one right now.
You and Holden must be law partners.
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definitely mocked him.
And you looked silly.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:35 pm to texridder
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How about the ones Trump appointed?
You are struggling to keep up with a very simple conversation. A poster states he doubts there are any dominion machines remaining that weren’t tampered with and you respond by asking about Trump’s appointments?
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:36 pm to BlueTeam
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Unfortunately for Rudy they can do that, they come out swinging, saying Rudy was "unwilling to make false claims" in court where he knew the repercussions, he clearly knew there was a line.
That is persuasive but can certainly be explained.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:38 pm to Wednesday
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I'm sure they are - which would probably prevent a SLAPP defense . . . However I think this is like Sidney. Rudy's extrajudicial statements seem to all repeat the statements made in his pleadings.
In Dominion's Complaint they point out that Rudy never put any of the Dominion allegations in the cases he filed.
Link to Dominion's Complaint
Pg. 11 of the Complaint
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. . . Notably, not a single one of the three complaints signed and filed by Giuliani and other attorneys for the Trump Campaign in the Pennsylvania action contained any allegations about Dominion. . . .
Pg. 19
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. . . Neither Giuliani nor any of the Trump Campaign’s other lawyers joined or signed their names to any of the pleadings in any of Powell’s and Wood’s sham election litigations; they knew there was no evidence to support the claims being made about Dominion in those cases. . . .
Are there other cases out there where Rudy actually made the Dominion allegations in Court?
This post was edited on 1/25/21 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:39 pm to CaTiger85
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That is persuasive but can certainly be explained.
How?
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:44 pm to Meauxjeaux
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He’s a leftist and that’s the default amount of respect he gives his fellow citizens.
not saying that you do this personally but it's about the same level of respect that many on this board give to leftists. I'm often guilty of it myself.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:45 pm to CaTiger85
quote:So how do anti slapp claims work in DC? Would they be counterclaims/counter suits as you interpret Rudy to be saying? What do the DC federal courts say about that?
And you looked silly.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:47 pm to BlueTeam
That's not what that case was about
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:52 pm to WDE24
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Would they be counterclaims/counter suits as you interpret Rudy to be saying?
You are still confused. You now want to argue whether it is a contersuit or claim instead of an independent suit?
Do you disagree anti-slapp is what Guliani was referring to? Typical new lawyer, looking for something anything to argue and distract from their inexperience.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:56 pm to CaTiger85
CaTiger, this guy literally argued that "no standing" meant the judge, in a trial, was presented evidence and then ruled.
You saw his comprehension on page 1. It's why alot of people no longer engage with him.
You saw his comprehension on page 1. It's why alot of people no longer engage with him.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:58 pm to Jjdoc
quote:Please link it, liar.
this guy literally argued that "no standing" meant the judge, in a trial, was presented evidence and then ruled.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:58 pm to Wednesday
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But are they not a public contractor?
Now that's an interesting question.
This is not my area, but I would say that they are not acting under color of state law in accusing Giuliani of defamation.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 3:01 pm to CaTiger85
quote:No, maybe you are confused. Isn’t it just a special motion to dismiss in DC? What about DC federal court?
You now want to argue whether it is a contersuit or claim instead of an independent suit?
quote:I don’t consider it wise to attempt to explain Rudy’s intent and take him only for what he actually says.
Do you disagree anti-slapp is what Guliani was referring to?
quote:Right. Like assuming anti slapp procedure in DC?
Typical new lawyer, looking for something anything to argue and distract from their inexperience.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 3:02 pm to WDE24
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Right. Like assuming anti slapp procedure in DC?
Are the elements different in DC or just the procedure? Why are you arguing procedure? Ignorance and hubris is not a good combo.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 3:04 pm to CaTiger85
quote:Because Rudy discussed counter suits/counterclaims. You believe him to be referring to anti slapp procedures which I don’t believe would be a counter suit or counterclaim under the DC anti slapp statute. One which the federal court might not even apply.
Why are you arguing procedure? Ignorance and hubris is not a good combo.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 3:06 pm to CaTiger85
Posted on 1/25/21 at 3:06 pm to WDE24
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