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re: RFKjr Announces Plans for Pharma TV Commercial Ban

Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by HeadCall
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:01 pm to
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Were one of 2 countries in the world where it’s so prevalent.


What’s the other one?
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:01 pm to
New Zealand
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1989 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:02 pm to
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It's not legal for tobacco, so there's a basis to start from where health is concerned.


Is it not legal for tobacco to advertise on all television? I know there was a ban on cigarette companies advertising on broadcast television, but broadcast television is a different sort of animal in a sense - and I am not sure, with a quick google search, if the ban was an agreement between regulators and the tobacco companies, or if it was a true ban.

I do know that when the states sued the big tobacco companies that part of the voluntary settlement involved heavy restrictions on tobacco companies and that is when you saw a huge reduction of tobacco advertising across the board (not just tv).


Anyway - for most of our country's history legislatures and the courts viewed purely commercial speech as something deserving far less protection than political speech. Nowadays that seems to actually be reversing, and that is not a good thing, imo.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:03 pm to
Thank God, now do lawyers.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:08 pm to
Good. Do lawyers next.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:11 pm to
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Is it not legal for tobacco to advertise on all television?


From chatgpt

The ban on cigarette advertising on U.S. radio and television took effect on January 2, 1971, as part of the Public Health Cigarette Smoking Act of 1969 (P.L. 91-222), signed into law by President Richard Nixon on April 1, 1970.

Key Aspects of the Law:
Prohibited cigarette ads on radio and television starting in 1971.
Required stronger health warnings on cigarette packaging, replacing the previous warning from the 1965 Federal Cigarette Labeling and Advertising Act.
Did not ban print advertising, billboards, or sponsorships at the time.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74508 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:13 pm to
Cigs are a health issue and banned.

These products are a health issue. If you don't think they are you have never listened to the end.

"May cause bleeding, blindness, organ failure and possible death etc..."

We regulate all the time. Some good some bad. This is good for the patient and the public. Bad for the msm and forces pharma to find other means to control the press. I support it.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8061 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:22 pm to
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The same people hoping #2 happens are promoting alternative media/podcasts. Those podcasts are disproportionately funded by outlets/industries MUCH more in danger of this sort of regulation, like gambling, supplements, etc.

ok i got you now
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467584 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:39 pm to
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Prohibited cigarette ads on radio and television starting in 1971.

Just FWIW, this act was before the USSC recognized commercial speech.

quote:

Did not ban print advertising, billboards, or sponsorships at the time.

This, IIRC, is the advertising they agreed to as part of the tobacco settlements. No more of this:



RIP Joe Camel
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467584 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:43 pm to
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These products are a health issue. If you don't think they are you have never listened to the end.

"May cause bleeding, blindness, organ failure and possible death etc..."

I think a major issue for tobacco was this, as they didn't admit that cigarette were addictive until when? The tobacco settlements?

I'm channeling my inner The Insider





Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75457 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:45 pm to
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It is amazing how many commercials are drugs.....the public is brainwashed....


Remember - A cured patient is a lost customer.
Posted by Megasaurus
Member since Dec 2017
1410 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:48 pm to
RFKjr Announces Plans for Pharma TV Commercial Ban

Awesome. Many people talk themselves into thining they need meds that are absolutely not needed..

fast food commercials too...

Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
75457 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:49 pm to
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Were one of 2 countries in the world where it’s so prevalent.

If I'm not mistaken, the US & New Zealand are the only countries where pharma ads are LEGAL at all, much less prevalent.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75457 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:53 pm to
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More worthless populism.


There was zero doubt about Candidate Trump's intentions with respect to HHS. Looks to me like 76M Americans voted overwhelmingly for this sort of long-overdue reform.


I thought the left was all about #MuhDemocracy.

What changed?
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8431 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:54 pm to
After that get the DOJ to ban slip and fall lawyer commercials. They are a "profession". The commercials make them look like whores who will do anything for money.

Oh wait, that is the most honest advertising there is. Never mind.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78348 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:55 pm to
76 M voted for free speech absolutism and also Kennedy banning commercials?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467584 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:56 pm to
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Looks to me like 76M Americans voted overwhelmingly for this sort of long-overdue reform.


Our system is built specifically to thwart this sort of rhetoric as justifying erosion of our rights.

quote:

When a majority is included in a faction, the form of popular government, on the other hand, enables it to sacrifice to its ruling passion or interest both the public good and the rights of other citizens. To secure the public good and private rights against the danger of such a faction, and at the same time to preserve the spirit and the form of popular government, is then the great object to which our inquiries are directed. Let me add that it is the great desideratum by which this form of government can be rescued from the opprobrium under which it has so long labored, and be recommended to the esteem and adoption of mankind.


Federalist 10
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78348 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:58 pm to
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After that get the DOJ to ban slip and fall lawyer commercials. They are a "profession". The commercials make them look like whores who will do anything for money.


SCOTUS already decided that unanimously.

Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39521 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 1:00 pm to
If Big Pharma has blonde bimbos, in short skirts carrying sample cases, in and out of Doctors Offices every day, then why do they need to promote their propaganda to the public, who can't have immediate access to their drugs? Big Parma passes along the cost of their propaganda to consumers, raising the price of all pharmaceuticals. It's a joke what the rest of the world pays, or doesn't pay price wise compared to the US.


Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75457 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 1:00 pm to
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its amazing how effortlessly leftists shape-shift from uncompromising civil libertarians to jackboot authoritarians when it comes to free speech.

Yeah, they were singing a different tune when folks wanted to talk about the 2020 election "results", or the possibility of FBI/CHS/paid agitators at the Capitol on J6, or discuss the potential dangers of an untested/unregulated/unverified experimental gene therapy being mandated under the guise of a vaccine... Where was their staunch defense of free speech then?

Crazy how nature do dat...
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