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re: RFK exposing more secrets by Big Pharma…

Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:08 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:08 pm to
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Obviously they didn't do it well enough.


The government doesn’t have a great track record of handling things well.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1649 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:09 pm to
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Dear god, you have nothing else
Did that happen or not?

At this point, you can't even admit facts. It's amazing. I'm a miracle worker. I've convinced someone to say the sky is red.

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there are plenty of guidelines we use all the time
Oh, so there's no problems with the peer review process? Would you figure it out? You keep flopping

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Give me a specific example of this process from the research that was 'cooked up' to those guidelines being actually implemented in the real-world
You mean other than the one I already gave you?

Again, this SFP tactic has NEVER worked on me. I told you to pick any example from the peer review process. You can pick any one of them. If a doctor EVER quoted that paper/point, that would be an example.

Still trying to derail
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:10 pm to
Truly, it was the messaging version of Obama targeting another Yemeni wedding.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:14 pm to
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Did that happen or not?



You realize that those were not real physicians used in those tobacco ads, right? It was just advertising.


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Oh, so there's no problems with the peer review process? Would you figure it out? You keep flopping



No, again, you don't know what the problems are and the more you type about the peer review process, the more it becomes apparent that you don't know what you are talking about.

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You mean other than the one I already gave you?



Well, you haven't even offered a meaningful one yet. You can keep trying. Give me a set of guidelines which is the example of this system you insist exists. From the cooked up research to the actual in-practice guidelines.

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told you to pick any example from the peer review process. You can pick any one of them. If a doctor EVER quoted that paper/point, that would be an example.


Dear god, you are so deeply retarded it is impressive.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 6:15 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:19 pm to
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OML, who is genetically predisposed to be an estrogen-secreting tumor


Yeah, keep showing how much of a decent scientist/doctor you are by saying such shite. Can’t imagine why people no longer “Trust the Science” with people like you behind the scenes.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1649 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:20 pm to
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The grifters definitely torpedoed their career
Mind reader, did they do it on purpose?

Let me guess, THOSE doctors are stupid but YOU'RE AWESOME. If only they would listen to you, knower of all things. Sure, they have real world evidence that they're right but who cares? This is more about protecting your emotional state than the scientific method.

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Lol, no
So RFK jr is NOT fighting the establishment/big pharma?

Now I've got you saying the sun is blue

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He's operating in the political realm
That's a big part of his job genius

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He has produced nothing of scientific value
Which is totally not necessary for him to be successful.

It's astonishing that you think someone in his position has ZERO physicians advising him. He's totally alone, against the medical world, swimming upstream, bucking our proud traditions all by himself and every doctor in the world knows he's totally wrong on every medical issue. This is how the world is in your addled mind

I don't know if you realize this but, you are incredibly, severely, emotionally threatened by RFK jr

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I'm looking at the entire oeuvre to make that determination
You stated plainly that you don't care what he says, you hate him. That is emotionally stunted like a spurned teenage girl and blatantly unscientific/biased.

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Well, I don't give a shite about them
That's clear. So, you now admit that there are people who actually DO care about these issues. Thank you for backpeddaling yet again

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Do you know how often a patient has brought up COVID like you psychos bring it up?
Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence. Just because they don't bring it up to you doesn't mean they don't care or irrationally hate RFK jr like you do

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The Dems did bungle their candidates. Trump was likely to win against most Dem candidates, regardless
He has 3 times gotten more votes than any president ever. He draws tens of thousands of people everywhere he goes. There are stores all over the country selling memorbilia. That's not the issue. The issue is that you are too arrogant to understand why he's the most popular candidate ever and it's the same reason that those same people feel like RFK jr is fighting for them

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Lol you dumbass
This is so awesome. I point out how immature you're acting and then you respond with this
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:22 pm to
The patient census is full every day dude. No one cares.
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
1514 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:23 pm to
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He's pulling the wool here. Vaccines go through similar testing to pharmaceuticals, but vaccines with an established safety record like flu vaccinations don't have to go through placebo-controlled studies every year because (1) there is a long-established safety record and (2) the flu antigens circulating change frequently enough that you couldn't get timely annual protection if you did a full trial every year. It works fine. RFK wants vaccines to be more feared, less available, more expensive, less used.


Can you tell us the average efficacy rate of the annual flu vaccine?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21884 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:24 pm to
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Again, the people who seem to take it really seriously seem to congregate on reactionary message boards.

Who cares about those people? They're not the ones that decided to impose wrongheaded restrictions or spend trillions under the guise of Covid response.

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Did they lie out of maliciousness, not in my view. Were they mistaken about several things, yes. Did they handle the communication aspect of the pandemic well, no. It's okay for public health officials to be mistaken about a novel virus as they learn more about it. Obviously, the proclamations they made that gave to impression of absolute certainty were massive mistakes.

I believe they misled and even fabricated shite in order to advance an agenda (or two), and they did this understanding they were putting millions of people at risk in some meaningful way. Example - kids. Shutting schools down has fricked up millions of kids and at least so far, they haven't recovered. And it made no sense at the time to do it.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:24 pm to
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The patient census is full every day dude. No one cares.


So I’m powerless to stop you is your answer? Again, you wonder why trust in scientists and doctors have an all time low in trust. This is basically what you’re saying to the commoners who you’re better than:

Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
11475 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:25 pm to
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I'm talking to you

You want my attention so bad

Listen, do some learning....come up with an intelligent, non-Chat GPT, independent thought....and ask nicely....and maybe I will re-engage. The "learning" part will probably take several years though, so no guarantee the older me will be willing to talk to you then
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
11475 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:27 pm to
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They cannot fathom how much the medical profession has gone from respected to mocked.

I wish my clinic schedule was reflective of this. I'm tired of having to do notes at home bc I don't have time between patients
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:27 pm to
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Listen, do some learning....come up with an intelligent, non-Chat GPT, independent thought


Well the doctors and scientists that owned us from 2020-2024 (and quite frankly before) actively said that there was no tolerance of independent thought and you were banned from Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and Instagram for daring to disagree with the WHO that was wrong about literally everything when it came to Covid.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1649 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:27 pm to
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Did they lie out of maliciousness, not in my view
ok mind reader.

It's basically been proven in congressional testimony.

But keep denying facts

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the proclamations they made that gave to impression of absolute certainty were massive mistakes
So you agree with RFK jr yet again?

DON'T YOU DARE ADMIT IT. We must protect your little feelings

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Who could fathom the degree to which certain people really took to heart certain statements as though they were intractable truths?
Oh yes, the lily white, innocent as a doe, pure as the wind driven snow, misunderstood doctors.

You can't see that you have serious emotional problems, can you? You need counseling bad.

People used tax dollars to unscrupulously control health information, steamrolling doctors who bucked the system, and enriched themselves in the process. Hospitals unethically used covid diagnoses for profit from the govt. It all started with illegal gain of function research for profit. We now know through video evidence that there have been plans to actually make Mission Impossible 2 in real life - FOR PROFIT.

You were lied to and you have stockholm syndrome protecting the people who stole from you and lied to you.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:29 pm to
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Let me guess, THOSE doctors are stupid


Yes the ones like Sherri Tenpenny who insisted the vaccine magnetized her are stupid. Others who had protocols you could buy were obvious grifters who need to be victims to continue their grit.

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Sure, they have real world evidence that they're right but who cares?


Lol, I have plenty of real world evidence dipshit.

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So RFK jr is NOT fighting the establishment/big pharma?



Again, if that is what you want to believe, go ahead.

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That's a big part of his job genius



Dear god, you really have no object permanence.

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It's astonishing that you think someone in his position has ZERO physicians advising him. He's totally alone, against the medical world, swimming upstream, bucking our proud traditions all by himself and every doctor in the world knows he's totally wrong on every medical issue.


I've read his books man. I know he is a very particular type of stupid.

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You stated plainly that you don't care what he says, you hate him.


Given what he has said repeatedly over the years, he and I are on opposite sides. My side will win. He will not.

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So, you now admit that there are people who actually DO care about these issues.


Yes, a small minority of people who do not make up any major percentage of people who are presenting to clinic for issues. Or rather, they don't bring it up during encounters, because why would they?

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Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence. Just because they don't bring it up to you doesn't mean they don't care or irrationally hate RFK jr like you do



It's a pretty good indication of a certain disposition.

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He has 3 times gotten more votes than any president ever.


Oh wow, what a meaningful and important statistic.

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here are stores all over the country selling memorbilia. That's not the issue. The issue is that you are too arrogant to understand why he's the most popular candidate ever and it's the same reason that those same people feel like RFK jr is fighting for them



I'm getting you now. You are desperate to look up to other men because you are often on your knees. Looking up to RFK is comforting to you because it is a position in which you find yourself familiar.

Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1649 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:29 pm to
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Obviously they didn't do it well enough.
You live in an alternative reality. Big Pharma made disgusting amounts of money. Politicians profited. Hospitals profited. The damage is already done. The only question is if the administration is going to be able to hold people accountable despite their blanket immunity.

You need help, BAD
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:30 pm to
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So you agree with RFK jr yet again?



You seem to think this is meanignful. I have yet to understand why.

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It all started with illegal gain of function research for profit. We now know through video evidence that there have been plans to actually make Mission Impossible 2 in real life - FOR PROFIT.



I definitely want to be on that side. It is way cooler.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:30 pm to
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I wish my clinic schedule was reflective of this. I'm tired of having to do notes at home bc I don't have time between patients


Yeah, what if you instead did preventative health measures instead of drugging up your patients when it’s too late for them. Instead you and Big Pharma have conspired to keep your patients sick and merely treat them. And to paraphrase Ian Malcolm:

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:31 pm to
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You live in an alternative reality. Big Pharma made disgusting amounts of money. Politicians profited. Hospitals profited. The damage is already done. The only question is if the administration is going to be able to hold people accountable despite their blanket immunity.


You are proof that they didn't do it all that well. If you can't reach the stupidest, then what is the point?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:33 pm to
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So I’m powerless to stop you is your answer?


Yes, you in particular are powerless to do anything other than bitch on the internet.

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Again, you wonder why trust in scientists and doctors have an all time low in trust.


Again, in patient interactions, this isn't my experience. I've cultivated some excellent relationships with patients during the height of this supposed distrust. Allow me to be skeptical if the effect of it is limited to reactionary message boards populated by retards.

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This is basically what you’re saying to the commoners who you’re better than:


No, I'm just better than you.
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