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re: Restaurant That Kicked Out GOP Gov. Huckabee Sanders Closes Its Doors
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:11 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:11 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
I think the business owner should have every right to serve whoever she likes.
I, as a potential customer, have every right to decide if I want to spend money in a place that will remove people from their seats based on politics, sexual orientation, race, etc.
I see no issue with any of this.
The problem arises when certain groups are deemed special and business owners are unable to decide if they can serve them or not. So long as business owners have complete control over who they can choose to serve and why, then I have no issue with any of this.
The market will work it out.
I, as a potential customer, have every right to decide if I want to spend money in a place that will remove people from their seats based on politics, sexual orientation, race, etc.
I see no issue with any of this.
The problem arises when certain groups are deemed special and business owners are unable to decide if they can serve them or not. So long as business owners have complete control over who they can choose to serve and why, then I have no issue with any of this.
The market will work it out.
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Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:13 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
It only took them five years. Most restaurants fail quicker than that.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:24 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
I'm glad they have to rebrand, but this boulliabaise looks heckin grand 
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:33 am to Brosef Stalin
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It only took them five years. Most restaurants fail quicker than that.
Considering the area where the place is located, there was probably a bump in business for a while from the liberal crowd after she threw Sander's party out. The problem is, those types of bumps don't last forever.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:36 am to SirWinston
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this boulliabaise looks heckin grand
I certainly wouldn’t put it past those people to spit in it.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:39 am to auggie
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So, things were going great, but they decided to make a change, because they thought they were making too much money?
Yup, instead of finding a different location, to use all that Red Hen profit, to open, cause restauranteurs never open multiple locations of different concepts near each other.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:40 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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I have a business, and I want the business to thrive.
Damn strange way to help your business thrive, kicking people out because you don't agree with their beliefs.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:47 am to DallasTiger
You miss the special sauce in your creme broulee?
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:50 am to tigbob
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She has the right to refuse service to anyoneand I have the right not to eat there. It's that simple!
Though I would like for this to be true, it's not that simple. I would have liked to see if this lady would have asked Dr. Carson to leave. Now that would have been bold, and set precedent if allowed.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:56 am to thebigmuffaletta
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The bakers weren’t refusing service to the person because they’re gay, they’re refusing to make cakes for gay weddings and gay themes.
Yes, they did this citing their religious beliefs. I don't know of any religious rules saying Christians shouldn't associate with or do business with gay people.
I think the "religious beliefs" thing is a rationalization. I think if they were being honest, they would have said they refused to bake a cake because gay people make them uncomfortable in some way. But they don't want to admit that.
This still doesn't explain why the prevailing conservative standard says it was wrong for the Red Hen owner to ask Huckabee to leave because of her support for a despised president, but that it's OK for a baker to refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:01 am to gymnopedies13
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Yes, they did this citing their religious beliefs. I don't know of any religious rules saying Christians shouldn't associate with or do business with gay people.
I think the "religious beliefs" thing is a rationalization. I think if they were being honest, they would have said they refused to bake a cake because gay people make them uncomfortable in some way. But they don't want to admit that.
This still doesn't explain why the prevailing conservative standard says it was wrong for the Red Hen owner to ask Huckabee to leave because of her support for a despised president, but that it's OK for a baker to refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding.
So, you think if the gay people had asked for a normal birthday cake, the owners would have refused?
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:08 am to gymnopedies13
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I think the "religious beliefs" thing is a rationalization. I think if they were being honest, they would have said they refused to bake a cake because gay people make them uncomfortable in some way. But they don't want to admit that.
this fricking marxist fairy tale.
You have no principles, so you think no one else does either...yada yada yada.
What name do you post under on reddit?
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:08 am to DallasTiger
I’ll let you in on a secret: rebranding is what dying restaurants try to do.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:19 am to auggie
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So, you think if the gay people had asked for a normal birthday cake, the owners would have refused?
I'm not sure. Maybe not. But the baker as well as others cited religious freedom as grounds for refusal to make the wedding cake. I think their refusal was more political than religious, because there's nothing in the Bible saying Christians should refuse service to gay people for any reason, or that it was sinful to bake a gay wedding cake.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:21 am to gymnopedies13
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gymnopedies13
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:21 am to gymnopedies13
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I'm not sure. Maybe not. But the baker as well as others cited religious freedom as grounds for refusal to make the wedding cake. I think their refusal was more political than religious, because there's nothing in the Bible saying Christians should refuse service to gay people for any reason, or that it was sinful to bake a gay wedding cake.
The wedding cake people were activists, knew what they were doing and were trying to get money through legal avenues.
Theyre doing a great job of perpetuating gay stereotypes.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The wedding cake people were activists, knew what they were doing and were trying to get money through legal avenues.
There's no evidence of that, and I know you know that.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:24 am to NIH
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I’ll let you in on a secret: rebranding is what dying restaurants try to do.
If that's so in this case, it doesn't mean the restaurant lost business because they were mean to conservatives, or that there was a successful boycott. Their business actually increased after the Huckabee thing, and it's been years since that happened, and Trump hasn't been president for three years.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:25 am to gymnopedies13
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There's no evidence of that, and I know you know that.
Youre literally spitting out shitty feminist opinion on here, you have no grounds to complain.
I'm sorry the patriarchy makes things so hard on you people.
LINK
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When Christian bakery owner Jack Phillips won a landmark U.S. Supreme Court case in June over his refusal to make a wedding cake a gay couple based on his religious convictions, he thought his legal battles with the state of Colorado were over, according to a lawsuit.
But now Phillips, owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop in Lakewood, Colorado, is facing a new court fight, this one involving a lawyer who asked him to bake a cake to celebrate the anniversary of her gender transition.
They knew his business, and are trying to bankrupt him.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 10:29 am
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:26 am to GeauxTigerTM
Agreed. I'm more concerned with a restaurant kicking out someone who's clearly finna eat. I think Chris Christie's a scumbag but he's welcome in my restaurant every day.
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