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re: Reminder: MLK was was a hypocrite and a communist

Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:43 am to
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:43 am to
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I have a pretty strong opinion that we shouldn't judge historical figures off today's morality standards.



What would be your time frame for that? 50 years, 100? Just curious.

I don't disagree with you FWIW
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:44 am to
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Meh. Just like Trump’s multiple marriages, we need to separate the human failings everyone has from people’s public legacies.


Nope. MLK took it to a whole nother level. Ralph Abernathy wrote in his book 'Martin was attracted to every woman he met ... except one ... his wife.'

Maybe you think Abernathy was a Republican.
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:44 am to
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I don't support Communism.

What are some of the policy positions that the Communist party holds that are different from the policy positions of the Democrat party?

Their bullet points sound pretty similar. The "oppressed" against the "oppressors"...The "rich" against the "poor"..."Workers of the world unite"..etc..etc.
What are some of the differences?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:47 am to
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What would be your time frame for that? 50 years, 100? Just curious.

I don't disagree with you FWIW


That is a difficult question and probably something that would be a case to case basis

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:47 am to
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What are some of the policy positions that the Communist party holds that are different from the policy positions of the Democrat party?


if only I supported the Democratic Party
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:49 am to
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and probably something that would be a case to case basis



I agree it's complicated but saying case by case basis makes it look like you would be picking and choosing based on the person and not the time as previously mentioned.
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:52 am to
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A nation that had the phrase "all men are created equal" in its founding documents yet didn't treat all men equal for nearly 200 years of its existence.


Before there was America, we were British subjects. A couple hundred years of that system being ingrained took a while to change. The accepted slavery on this continent was based in British and Spanish social order..soo..
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:53 am to
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I agree it's complicated but saying case by case basis makes it look like you would be picking and choosing based on the person and not the time as previously mentioned.


Not the person

But the moral issue and when society shifted

Society shifts way too much for it to be a clear answer

for instance, I wouldn't judge a person that supported slavery when slavery generally accepted in society, but I would judge a person if they still accepted slavery say in the 1950s





This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 11:55 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:54 am to
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Society shifts way too much for it to be a clear answer

for instance, I wouldn't judge a person that supported slavery when slavery generally accepted in society, but I would judge that person if they still accepted slavery say in the 1950s






Fair enough
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:55 am to
He sounded a lot like Obama. Well, except for the womanizing parts.
Posted by TigersInParis
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:56 am to
A womanizer with ties to the soviets? Sounds like a man after Trump's own heart! No wonder Trump loves him so much!
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:56 am to
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Meh. Just like Trump’s multiple marriages, we need to separate the human failings everyone has from people’s public legacies.


Meh, Trumps not a preacher! Why is this thread anchored?
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 11:57 am
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:59 am to
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if only I supported the Democratic Party



That doesn't matter, in fact, not supporting the democrat party may give a more unbiased view. That said, what are some of the differences you can identify between the the boilerplate communist and the democratic positions? Do you disagree with my observations of the similarities?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:02 pm to
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A womanizer with ties to the soviets? Sounds like a man after Trump's own heart! No wonder Trump loves him so much!


Yer silly.
Posted by AU_Right
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:18 pm to
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Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:24 pm to
if he really was a communist, I think it's a disgrace that it took a communist to force democrats into upholding the Constitution of the United States.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:09 pm to
Was he a card carrying commie or is red baiting just your granddad hallucination about uppity nigras?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:25 pm to
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Thats nice. Maybe you are being suckered? The "anti-war" movement is a cover for spreading communist ideology. Don't you find it odd that the whole anti-war movement disappeared when war monger Obama was in office?
Why do you suppose that is?


It didn’t disappear; it just became less noisy because the left is filled with Team Blue hypocrites. Plenty of us have been beating the anti-war drum for each subsequent administration.
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