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re: Remember when just the swing states simultaneously went to take a smoke break in 2020?

Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:31 am to
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14930 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:31 am to
Again?
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How about you post an example of one of these statistical impossibilities?
Again?

First of all, my post wasn't directed to you.
Secondly, I can't read what you posted. But I guess that's what you wanted_ to be able to say you responded, buy not so I could read it and respond.

If that is not so, post them again so I can read them.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14930 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:42 am to
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If you wanted statistical evidence it's all over the place. You don't need others to do your homework for you.

I don't want them to do my homework. I want them to post statistic evidence of specific topics so I can post the other side of this supposed evidence.

Very simple. But I can't get any takers. All I get is responses from people like you saying it's all over the place. That's just a dodge.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
24905 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 1:51 am to
Tex, we all know you know. You don't have to pretend anymore. For once in your life tell the truth here and let everyone read your message saying elections were fraudulent, cheating occurred.

Start telling the truth. You might find out you like it.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14930 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 2:16 am to
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Tex, we all know you know. You don't have to pretend anymore. For once in your life tell the truth here and let everyone read your message saying elections were fraudulent, cheating occurred.

You're right.

I confess that the U.S. Military seized servers in Germany that had evidence of election fraud;

that Italian military satellites were used to switch votes from Trump to Biden;

that bamboo ballots that were made in China were shipped to the U.S. and cast in the election; and that

the chances of Biden winning the election were a quadrillion to 1.

How did I do?
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
24905 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 3:08 am to
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How did I do?


Sucked arse as usual.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14930 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 3:18 am to
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The average voter turnout is usually around 62.5%.

PewResesrch reported that "Americans voted in record numbers in last year’s presidential election, casting nearly 158.4 million ballots."

Plenty of votes for Biden to have received 81 million and Trump to get 74 million.

The rest of your post is a tribute to Mark Twain's quip:
quote:

There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics”

Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14930 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 3:26 am to
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How did I do?
quote:

Sucked arse as usual.

If you thought is sucked, it must have been damned good.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131125 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 4:20 am to
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I can't read what you posted.
Actually you can. That's the point. They were all image caps from posts in this thread. They are right here. Yet you've not read/addressed them.

It's why no one is interested in "doing your homework for you." But, I'd guess there have been >100 forum threads discussing this over two years. Again, if there's something you want to call up, bump one of those, or link it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131125 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 5:20 am to
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nearly 158.4 million ballots
See, it's this kind of thing that raises antennas.

There were only 153 million voters even REGISTERED in 2018.

So based on claims of 168 - 210 million registered voters in 2020, we are left to believe something nearly incomprehensible. We are left to believe that between Jan 2019 (an off year) and Nov 2020 (a covid lockdown year), 15 to 57 million new voters registered. That is what statisticians refer to as an anomaly.

Is it an impossibility?
No!

Is it improbable?
Highly.

Has it been explored or explained?
No.

Should those anomalous numbers be of concern since we now know China and perhaps others had access to and modification capacity of our voter registration rolls?
Yes they should.

Without COMPLETE transparency you are NEVER going to get buy-in to claims that a senile basement dweller who could barely attract dozens to his campaign rallies, actually tallied 12 million more votes than Barack Obama at his zenith.

That is simply not believable on its face. The fact that participants (mainly dems, but some GOP) in the electoral process have been anything but honest and transparent about processes and results shreds their credibility.
This post was edited on 12/12/22 at 5:41 am
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2393 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 6:26 am to
I don't know, your own link shows an increase in 15 million registered voters from 2014 to 2016, and an increase of 16 million registered voters from 2010 to 2012. And significant decreases in registrations in other years.

I'm not prepared to call this a statistical anamoly without much more data.

It seems to me there is historically a significant effort to get people registered leading up to Presidential election years. Combine that with the COVID shutdowns and people sitting at home, watching TV and surfing the Internet, these numbers seem quite believable and not curious at all.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2618 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 6:29 am to
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Too bad you didn't take your own advice and look that up yourself. I did look at the official number of votes cast in Georgia. According to the Federal Election Commission, there were 4,999,960 total votes cast in the 2020 presidential election in Georgia, meaning that 335,041 votes were uncounted at that time. FEC website So, Trump was up 103,705 with 335,041 votes outstanding. And Raffensperger was full of shite, to say that even if Biden got all the outstanding uncounted votes Trump would win--and you were a fool to take what Raffensperger said from the seat of his pants in the middle of the counting, as absolute authority just because it fit your narrative of vote discrepancies in Georgia. Any questions?


I did look it up prior to my statement. The issue is that those numbers are different. Raffensperger stated clearly how many votes were cast in the 2020 election and said who was going to win on national television. So this guy was wrong by 200k voters? Where did the other 200k votes come from?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131125 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:31 am to
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your own link
No kidding
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increase of 16 million registered voters from 2010 to 2012
Right. You seem to pull random numbers with no attempt and/or ability to associate them.

I was much more directly involved in politics at that point. So address of the 2012 election is fairly easy.

Perhaps you're not familiar with lay-of-the-land in the run-up to Obama's elections. He and his campaign were extremely sophisticated organizers. Their community analysis down to precinct level was the best in the history of US national campaigns. It's how he caught Hillary off guard in '08. Voter registration was a huge part of that effort.

Romney and the GOP set out to match the Obama Campaign effort leading into 2012. Both sides were very vocal about their scale and success of their new voter registration progress. Demonstrating a similar effort in 2020 would constitute some of the transparency I was addressing.
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not curious at all
So for example, turnout in 2012 was 81%. Extrapolation to a supposed 156 million voters would intimate a basis of 192 million registered voters. For you to be "not curious at all" about those facts is odd and antiintellectually dismissive.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8185 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:44 am to
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How did I do?

Well, you never provided your opinion on what was in the boxes that were pulled from under a skirted table after-hours in Atlanta, then fed into scanners multiple times.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14930 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 5:01 am to
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So this guy was wrong by 200k voters?
He said that there were about 2% of the vote outstanding. He was wrong. There was close to 6% of the vote outstanding.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14930 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 12:31 am to
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There were only 153 million voters even REGISTERED in 2018.... We are left to believe that between Jan 2019 (an off year) and Nov 2020 (a covid lockdown year), 15 to 57 million new voters registered. That is what statisticians refer to as an anomaly.

Would it change your conclusion if you knew that instead of 153 million registered voters in 2018 there were actually 190 million million registered voters in 2018?

Why did you use the 2018 Census number (notoriously unreliable) of 153 million instead of the 2018 EAVS 190 million number that was just one line below the 210 million EAVS number you used for the number of 2020 registrations?

Could it be that you used lower, incorrect 2018 number so you could act all righteous and accusatory and call it an anomaly?

Disingenuous.

And pitiful.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131125 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:53 am to
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instead of the 2018 EAVS 190 million number that was just one line below the 210 million EAVS number you used for the number of 2020 registrations?
Because NO ONE believes the 190M number to be accurate. But you already knew that.

What it does elucidate though, is the amount of 'play' in the system to conjure up votes. When folks die, or move out of state, blue states in particular, they often remain on voter rolls for years.

Likewise, same day registration in states like NewHampshire allow Boston area überlibs to claim a residence in NH, register on ED, vote, then return to Boston where they remain on the rolls but don't need to vote because the MOV is so large.

Instead of flailing at bullshite gotcha whiffs, you should be asking why a country as advanced as the US could EVER have differences of voter registration estimates > 40 MILLION for a single election.

Instead, you couldn't care less, because for some reason (usually financial support driven), you're happy with the result, even if its derivation was corrupt as hell.
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 5:04 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46089 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 8:17 am to
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Disingenuous & pitiful

nailed it = self awareness is a start.

You are the very definition of disingenuity - and you must get raves when impressing people in your bubble.

Anyone who completely rejects obvious improbabilities in deference to unsubstantiated claims is someone who doesn't deserve a rigorous response.

NOT ONE actual AUDIT of any portion of the allegedly suspect election centers was ever done. ALL that was done is pathetic --> "we recounted those stacks of paper over there, and yep, it is all good."

Nobody has ever had a reasonable response to the many 'outliers' in that election. All have merely been ignored with a puny denial laced with pejorative insults of 'election denier' or worse.

meanwhile, your kin are still complaining a bout the 2016 election, despite your failed effort to steal THAT one too. The same places with the 'fortuitous' delays in ballot counting in 2020 had them in 2016. Difference is that the cheaters were not prepared with enough fraudulent paper to overcome the unexpected tsunami from the actual voters.

DEMs decided to 'never let that happen again' - they vowed to have enough ballots in reserve to overcome ANY landslide from the 'other side'
- hello COVID-19 (just in time) to demand LOCKDOWNs so people couldn't easily move around during the campaign
- hello to MASS MAILOUT OF BALLOTs to everyone on the 'registration rolls' whether they had ever voted or not, nor whether they gave any indication of WANTING to vote (or any indication that the names actually matched up with a living citizen of the nation)
- hello to BALLOT HARVESTING so that paid operative could 'legally' go around and "help out' those millions of 'shut-ins' whose votes had been 'suppressed' by those venal 'white supremacists' for ages. and then they could deposit those ballots by the hundreds/thousands just as if someone who really knew what was going on had taken time out from his daily requirements to go and actually CAST A VOTE at a given location.
- hello to 'curing the ballots' so election judges could make sense out of those ballots that may not have fared to well in the physical world during the days, weeks, months, of custody after being mailed out months earlier
- hello to introducing the massive $$$$ spent on 'helping' out election officials do their 'jobs' in critical democrat districts
- hello to 'social distancing' requirements so that NO OBSERVER was able to actually witness the actual handling of those mailed in 'ballots' as they were being processed by the workers.
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and that doesn't even address all the STATISTICAL ANOMALIES that occurred -
- many places where historically absentee ballots were rejected at a rate of 3-6 % when they numbered in the thousands, were THIS time only rejected at <1% levels when they numbering in the hundreds of thousands.
- 17 of 18 districts that had historically been reliable predicators of national election OUTCOMES were this time WRONG. (note that these districts were NOT in the 'suspect districts' where DEMOCRATs always, win regardless of candidate)
- there was no discernible support for Biden whatsoever - he didn't campaign - never had a real press conference - never made a rational statement - presented no 'plan' for what he would do - could not draw a dozen people to any place he decided to appear, meanwhile 10s of thousands of Trump supporters defied elements and waited hours to be at one of his many appearances, and Trump was being pressed daily/hourly with questions and accusations which he never attempted to dodge.
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and we dont even need to discuss all the CONSPIRACIES and CRIMINALITIES involved in plotting against the re-election of Trump
- continuing pervasive invasions of privacy started by the RUSSIA COLLUSION HOAX - still being exercised
- ongoing conspiracy to SILENCE the voices of any OPPOSITION to the democrat agenda
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but you be you - disingenuous to the very core and proud of it.
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 8:21 am
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
28453 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:44 am to
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If nothing fishy went on, explain Raffensperger going on national television, telling the Today show that 4.7 million votes were cast in Georgia and if EVERY vote left to be counted went to Biden he’d still lose.

The “official” vote count in Georgia was 4.9 million. Where did the other 200k come from?



I had not seen that clip until today.

Two things:

1. If there was no statistical way for Biden to win, why wasn't it called? According to the SoS for GA, even if EVERY REMAINING VOTE went to Biden, he still would not have won.

2. The math confirms this. Raffensberger said 2 percent of the vote was left to be counted. At that point in time, Trump held a 104,000 vote advantage. Even if you round up 4.7 million to 5 million, that would mean 100,000 votes left to be counted.

Raffensberger was correct. Even if there were 100,000 votes left to be counted and ALL OF THEM went Biden's way, Biden would have ended up 4,000 votes short and would have lost GA.

eltek1 has a valid question: where did the extra votes come from and how in the hell did they break so overwhelmingly for Biden? There is NO WAY the SoS of any state has no idea how many people voted in any election. He stated definitively it was 4.7 million votes cast. Why the huge discrepancy?

Why hasn't this question been asked?

For the texridders of the world, this is but one example of why a lot of us question the outcome of the 2020 election.
Posted by prattalumni
Member since Sep 2012
875 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:29 am to
I noticed our high soy residents never seem to respond to these charts.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55444 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:31 am to
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A water leak did happen…


No it didn't, retard. A toilet overflowed. You do know there are actual links/resources that show you are lying right now, right? Want me to post them?
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