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Remember the emotions of 9/11 and how that allowed the power grab of the Patriot Act?
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:13 am
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:13 am
If not, then go read up on the PA and what Snowden discovered.
That all will be laughable compared to what is coming now that the vaccine is approved.
What's sad is that many learned nothing from the PA and will still allow their rights to be demolished under the guise of public safety and health.
Whether you trust the vaccine or not is not the issue now. Everyone should say no to sweeping mandates that are coming no matter what side of the fence you are on.
Slippery slopes are real and remember that no Government has ever given its citizens their rights back once they took it from them.
That all will be laughable compared to what is coming now that the vaccine is approved.
What's sad is that many learned nothing from the PA and will still allow their rights to be demolished under the guise of public safety and health.
Whether you trust the vaccine or not is not the issue now. Everyone should say no to sweeping mandates that are coming no matter what side of the fence you are on.
Slippery slopes are real and remember that no Government has ever given its citizens their rights back once they took it from them.
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:14 am to stout
I think Democrats know that with Joe now being obviously and undeniably fricked up, he won't be able to get anything like a vaccine mandate passed.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:16 am to stout
I have to believe Joe Biden’s presidency is the bigger red pill imaginable
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:18 am to stout
The only difference is that after 9-11 the country was unified against a common enemy, that was not American.
In this case half the country thinks vaccines should be mandatory and have made the other half of their own country their common enemy.
I think It’s worse.
In this case half the country thinks vaccines should be mandatory and have made the other half of their own country their common enemy.
I think It’s worse.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:18 am to RickDorf
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I think Democrats know that with Joe now being obviously and undeniably fricked up, he won't be able to get anything like a vaccine mandate passed.
Well, hopefully the midterms swing the pendulum so he can't pass anything and some of his EO's need to be challenged
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:20 am to Wednesday
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The only difference is that after 9-11 the country was unified against a common enemy, that was not American.
In this case half the country thinks vaccines should be mandatory and have made the other half of their own country their common enemy.
That's a fair point but the Dems have control to basically do what they want and only half the people backing them is more than enough in their mind. They want to crush the other half at all cost anyway. We need states like TX and FL to keep pushing back with states rights.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:21 am to stout
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:21 am to stout
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Everyone should say no to sweeping mandates that are coming no matter what side of the fence you are on.
Absolutely....however most won't because saying no will probably be painful in the form of job loss, privilege loss, etc.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:23 am to stout
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That all will be laughable compared to what is coming now that the vaccine is approved.
How so? The Patriot Act allowed spying on everyone; that's pretty fricked up.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:28 am to Wtodd
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How so? The Patriot Act allowed spying on everyone; that's pretty fricked up.
Yes, it is F'd up but IMO just watch what happens. Today it will only be unvaccinated that will be kept from participating in society but watch what happens in the future when they demand booster shots and you to keep a digital record to prove you have kept it up. Vaccine IDs took a back seat but that will be front and center now that FDA has approved it.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:30 am to stout
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:31 am to stout
I agree with the premise but the PA fricked us forever bc there is no way the Government is going to dump the PA.
I can actually see a large part of the country saying "take your vacs, passports and boosters and shove them up your arse".
I can actually see a large part of the country saying "take your vacs, passports and boosters and shove them up your arse".
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:38 am to stout
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read up on the PA and what Snowden discovered.
Could you give me a link or something. Can’t find anything of worth googling
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:39 am to Wtodd
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I can actually see a large part of the country saying "take your vacs, passports and boosters and shove them up your arse".
You have two sides that may say that. One side is largely middle class and has too much to lose and the other side is mostly minority welfare recipeints that will not risk their benefits.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:41 am to Espritdescorps
Because Google suppresses information at the Governments request. Use Duck Duck Go
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:44 am to stout
They don’t have half the population. That’s an illusion created by the media
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:46 am to xxTIMMYxx
They have large cities and more than you think
I do think they lost/will lose a lot of minorities as that is a trend I am seeing
I do think they lost/will lose a lot of minorities as that is a trend I am seeing
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:47 am to xxTIMMYxx
Yet OP probably owns an iPhone
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:53 am to Silvermoon_WhereRU
I actually have a One Plus 8 but that is a silly argument because I, like you, still have to live and function in society.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:56 am to stout
The quote from Ben Franklin fits here perfectly . "Those who will give up liberty for temporary safety deserve neither". But, here we are anyway.
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