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re: Regime change in Iran possible per Netanyahu. Main nuclear site destroyed
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:51 pm to RFK
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:51 pm to RFK
quote:
Iran has been proven to be behind the Oct. 7 massacre.
False
Iran denies it, Hamas denies it, US intelligence said it wasnt.
Iran probably knew about it and may have provided support but there is nothing that proves that Iran planned and executed Oct 7
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:54 pm to Iron Lion
Israel does that. They have real elections. They have regime change from time to time, peacefully.
Iran stages elections but only of approved candidates and their guy always wins. Kind of like a Democrat Primary here.
Iran stages elections but only of approved candidates and their guy always wins. Kind of like a Democrat Primary here.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:02 pm to scottydoesntknow
quote:It’s widely acknowledged that Iran has long been a primary backer of Hamas, providing financial aid, weapons, training, and technical support for decades.
False Iran denies it, Hamas denies it, US intelligence said it wasnt.
The Wall Street Journal reported that approximately 500 Hamas militants involved in the attack received specialized training in Iran in the weeks leading up to October 7, led by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.
Secret documents seized by the Israeli military and reported by The New York Times show that Hamas leader Khalil al-Hayya discussed the attack plan with IRGC commander Mohammed Said Izadi in July 2023. Izadi reportedly welcomed the plan but noted Iran and Hezbollah needed time to “prepare the environment.”
Iran was as complicit as they could be. But for Iran, the attack wouldn’t have happened. Iran got caught and they deserve to pay for it.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:25 pm to TheHarahanian
quote:Regime change isn't always a good thing. Germany helped destabilize the Russian Government in 1917 and unleashed a monster.
Regime change: if Israel kills all the current leaders, there will be new leaders.
I’m not boo hooing anything Israel is doing. That’s just paraphrasing the tweet.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:29 pm to Proximo
Regime change in the Middle East always works out well. Am I the only one that’s ever read a history book?
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:27 am to BuckI
quote:
Regime change isn't always a good thing. Germany helped destabilize the Russian Government in 1917 and unleashed a monster.
You don’t need to look any further than Iran for an example of bad regime change.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:14 am to TheHarahanian
Yea ask Jimmy Carter how that regime change in Iran worked out in 79.Bad foreign policy has consequences as we have seen during the Carter and Biden administrations.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:17 am to Pandy Fackler
..................so you're saying, you would open your doors and let them kill your family.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:29 am to scottydoesntknow
quote:
That a-hole liar told everyone Iran was months away from a bomb...13 years ago
I keep seeing folks make this statement. How accurate Bibi's predictions were is debatable, but the actions taken over the years by Israel to derail Irans efforts had considerable impact on Irans abilities to create a nuclear weapon. You only present partial context in your statement.
Bidens lifting of sanctions and providing Iran with billions of dollar certainly accelerated Irans progress.
Grok said:
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Confirmed or Strongly Suspected Actions: At least 8 major operations (Stuxnet, scientist assassinations 2010–2012, archive heist, Fakhrizadeh assassination, 2021 Natanz sabotage, 2024 Parchin strike, 2025 Natanz strikes) plus numerous smaller sabotage efforts over decades.
Ambiguity: Covert operations, like defective equipment sales or unconfirmed cyberattacks, likely add to the tally but lack specific documentation. Israel’s strategy has combined cyberattacks, assassinations, sabotage, and airstrikes, often avoiding direct hits on deeply buried sites like Fordow due to technical limitations.
Effectiveness: Each action delayed Iran’s program—ranging from months to a couple of years—but none permanently stopped it. Iran has adapted by hardening facilities, dispersing sites, and advancing enrichment, with a current stockpile of 60% enriched uranium sufficient for multiple bombs if further enriched
This post was edited on 6/16/25 at 9:31 am
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:38 am to Proximo
On one hand, Iran's government is one of the worst in the world and them falling SHOULD be a good thing
On the other hand the past hundred years of regime change in the ME has routinely not gone well
On the other hand the past hundred years of regime change in the ME has routinely not gone well
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