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re: Redbone's thread, as requested

Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:14 pm to
Exactly. They didnt occur.
Posted by Fourteen28
Member since Aug 2018
1156 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:15 pm to
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If you employed them, I assume you checked their legality?


Of course
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:17 pm to
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What is that point, to the extent that you understand it to be?

you seem to be convinced that we'd buy your argument if only we understood it correctly, so you tell us why you think you can keep comparing slavery to something that is different by definition
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
8220 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:19 pm to
You are the one who is missing the point here.

quote:

guest workers
are legal workers, hired temporarily to perform a service needed. Many are seasonal workers who return to Mexico after the job is complete.

I also know people who retain the services of these workers. They ARE NOT illegal immigrants who "sneak" into our country and end up using the services paid for by American taxpayers.

Obvious difference that you seem to fail to comprehend.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46550 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:21 pm to
What a pussy. You can Google it yourself, but you will demand others do it for you, and when they don't, you just deny it exists. Even if someone did your homework for you, you'd still deny it because only a fricking window licker thinks Mexico can write us a check to build a 2000 mile wall without Congress being involved.

You are a small little pussy.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:23 pm to
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What a pussy.

he said unironically, while refusing to back up his own claim
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23087 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:26 pm to
His point clearly was renegotiating the bad trade deals with Mexico and use the $ saved to build the wall.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:30 pm to
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Fourteen28


Your skyscream today has been noted.

Bravo skyscreamer. BRAVO!!!!
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:39 pm to
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Fourteen28


Name checks out.

Another dumb liberal that expected a NASCAR type check signed by Mexico...
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 10:41 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46550 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:47 pm to
Here you go, window licker.

quote:

This is not the first time that Trump has spelled out options for pressuring Mexico into paying for his signature policy proposal.

In an immigration overhaul plan released in August, Trump's campaign suggested a number of options for compelling Mexico to pay for the wall. Those included impounding "all remittance payments derived from illegal wages," increasing fees on temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats -- "and if necessary cancel them" -- increasing fees on border crossing cards, increasing fees on NAFTA worker visas from Mexico, and increasing fees at ports of entry between the two countries.

"Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options," the immigration paper stated.


NBC Apr 2016

WAPO Apr 2016

Obama even held a press conference to bitch about it

Bloomberg 2016

quote:

Trump Camp Mulls Using Seized Cartel Assets to Pay for Wall


Lifezette Sept 2016

Nowhere will you find a proposal for Mexico to hand us one of those giant golf tournament checks in the Rose Garden, but let's be honest window licker. You won't stop being an obtuse douche even though your dumb gotcha got btfo. All this will certainly be lost on you, but perhaps for others, there's still hope.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 10:53 pm
Posted by Fourteen28
Member since Aug 2018
1156 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:02 pm to
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Another dumb liberal


Can you tell me which of my viewpoints is "liberal?"

ETA. Looks like the thread got the anchor. Don't even worry about it
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 11:03 pm
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:12 pm to
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Nowhere will you find a proposal for Mexico to hand us one of those giant golf tournament checks in the Rose Garden

I don't know who came up with your weird Rose Garden fantasy, but wow, you are hopelessly confused. I mean, you're the exact opposite of correct.

The entire proposal those links describe is aimed at compelling the mexican government into paying the US government for the wall.

And why multiple links describing a single proposal, while no link to the proposal? It's still on Trump's campaign website, so we can all see that it is undeniably talking about the Mexican government paying.

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It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year. There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall including the following:

- On day 1 promulgate a "proposed rule" (regulation) amending 31 CFR 130.121 to redefine applicable financial institutions to include money transfer companies like Western Union, and redefine "account" to include wire transfers. Also include in the proposed rule a requirement that no alien may wire money outside of the United States unless the alien first provides a document establishing his lawful presence in the United States.

- On day 2 Mexico will immediately protest. They receive approximately $24 billion a year in remittances from Mexican nationals working in the United States. The majority of that amount comes from illegal aliens. It serves as de facto welfare for poor families in Mexico. There is no significant social safety net provided by the state in Mexico.

- On day 3 tell Mexico that if the Mexican government will contribute the funds needed to the United States to pay for the wall, the Trump Administration will not promulgate the final rule, and the regulation will not go into effect.


LINK

This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 11:15 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46550 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:36 pm to
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And why multiple links describing a single proposal


That's horseshite, cause I linked content from both April and September on separate proposals. Are you illiterate? And just how many policy briefings on wall funding do you expect a campaign to release? You challenged me to produce evidence that wall funding was debated prior to the election. Now you are moving the goal posts... shocking.

quote:

The entire proposal those links describe is aimed at compelling the mexican government into paying the US government for the wall.


Wrong again. The briefing specifically references visa fees and cuts in aid as options. Remittances earned in the US from US companies that never leave the US are not Mexican funds either. Cartel assets siezed by US authorities on US soil, not Mexican government funds.
And as mentioned earlier, no funding can be appropriated unless Congress approves it from the Treasury, regardless of its offset. Liberals like you get to bitch about it being "taxpayer" money either way, and we all know you will.

This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 11:52 pm
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10493 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:56 pm to
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It's the world we live in. Americans simply don't want to work

this is what happens without migrant labor


This video and the similar articles about California's agriculture industry are simply propaganda for the simple minded.

In the first part, they talk about the migrant worker program not limiting the amount of drugs entering the area. Well, no shite. Even if cartels were using migrant workers (which is a very small percentage), do you expect them to just say, "Oh well, we will just give up billions of dollars and not use other methods to ship in our drugs"?

As for Americans not wanting to work, let's look at who they are trying to hire. They went to "the soup kitchens, the streets, and the half-way houses" to find employees. Are you really surprised that a bunch of homeless drug addicts don't want to work? They also complain about white workers not being as productive. Inexperienced people are usually less productive than people that have done the job before. That's not shocking.

No one is against legal immigration and legal worker programs. Comparing legal immigration to illegal immigration is dumb to begin with, but the arguments people use in these videos/articles is extremely weak.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 12:20 am to
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ETA. Looks like the thread got the anchor. Don't even worry about it



Yeah, dumb threads from dumb fricks normally hit the bottom
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11532 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 12:23 am to
When you bought your used Honda Civic, did you pay all the cash up front for it or did you pay for it over the course of time?

Mexico pays for the wall in less than a year after it is built.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 8:59 am to
Still no links.
Hahaha
“I wont do your honework for you”

Guess it never happened. And also, you never answered my question: what mechanism in rhe usmca allows for this economic wizadry to fund the wall?
I guess ill just have to wait until breitbart publishes an article to explain it to you simpletons.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6053 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 9:13 am to
Literally no trump supporter ever thought he meant Mexico was going to cut a check. The only people clinging to that idea are the libs trying to convince people that trump lied.

So, continue believing trump lied. The rest of us will move on to more important issues.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46550 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 9:59 am to
Multiple links were provided. Even one of your own Trump haters threw up a link.

You are going to pretend they don't exist, so posting them was a waste of time. Just like I predicted. Pathetic.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 11:02 am to
I can see why you were heaitant to post those. From the nbc link you provided:
quote:

In his proposal, Trump threatened to change a rule under the USA Patriot Act, an anti-terrorism law, to cut off funds sent to Mexico through money transfers known as remittances. Trump said he would withdraw the threat if Mexico makes "a one-time payment of $5-10 billion" to finance the wall.


May not be a novelty sized check, but it sure seems that one trump thought a payment was coming.

Do i need to check the rest of your “homework?”
This post was edited on 12/30/18 at 11:06 am
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