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re: Realistically, if protesters showed up at your house and banging the door, can u shoot?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:09 am to Revelator
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:09 am to Revelator
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I would guess they have to be inside the house and a threat.
This is not entirely true, and depends on jurisdiction.
But in general you don't want to be shooting people who are in your yard.
And I mean damn come on, we've got to ALL start understanding that there are some things we might have a right to do, but we still shouldn't do them. Of course this especially applies to the left, but it applies to people who are asking if they have the right to shoot protesters in their yard as well.
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Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:11 am to LSUvegasbombed
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Would you be charged with murder if you shot through the door and killed a protester?
Why not just wait for them to actually break in so you can see the look on their face when they have a barrel pointed at them. No need to shoot, they will shite their pants and run away
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:11 am to antibarner
quote:i already answered this scenario. the reason why is because it would be basically impossible to prove in court that you didn't shoot someone who was trying to get out of your house. iow, someone gets into your house (perhaps even through no fault of their own), spots you and then tries to leave but you shoot them in the back. that's murder.
What if that individual is entering a room with family members in it or attacking a family member? Inside your home?
again, if you are trying to help someone who is getting attacked, different situation. you are probably justified in shooting them in the back. but you better dang sure prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that someone was in mortal danger
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:22 am to antibarner
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I suspect if you slipped out the back door came around the house and fired a couple of blasts in their general direction they would soil their trousers getting out of there.
Hell hide in the bushes at your neighbors house with a BB or Pellet gun, and just sit there shooting them. You can't kill them, but damn that's gonna sting like a mf'r.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:28 am to LSUvegasbombed
Generally the justified use of deadly force requires three criteria to be met:
1 - Ability, does the threat have the physical capability to cause you death or grevious bodily harm?
2 - Intent, would a reasonable person conclude that the threat was in fact intending to cause you this harm?
3 - Opportunity, does the threat have imminent access to cause you this harm? ...This is where it gets sticky vis a vis castle doctrine. One could argue that as long as you are inside and they are outside, they have no opportunity. If they're in the process of breaking the door down, then you better hope there is evidence of damage to your door.
As stated, the particulars of the law vary depending where you are, but in general you need to wait until they're inside or at least until the door is half way broken down.
1 - Ability, does the threat have the physical capability to cause you death or grevious bodily harm?
2 - Intent, would a reasonable person conclude that the threat was in fact intending to cause you this harm?
3 - Opportunity, does the threat have imminent access to cause you this harm? ...This is where it gets sticky vis a vis castle doctrine. One could argue that as long as you are inside and they are outside, they have no opportunity. If they're in the process of breaking the door down, then you better hope there is evidence of damage to your door.
As stated, the particulars of the law vary depending where you are, but in general you need to wait until they're inside or at least until the door is half way broken down.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:38 am to LSUvegasbombed
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Would you be charged with murder if you shot through the door and killed a protester?
Every situation is different, but I wouldn't advocate shooting through a door- ever. Sounds like a shortcut to prison.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:44 am to Kracka
People gathering in large mobs outside your house chanting threats who start banging on your door are a threat to not only your life, but your family's as well.....shoot as many of them as possible just to be safe and take the chance that there will be good Patriots on the jury who will let you walk.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:46 am to LSUvegasbombed
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Realistically, if protesters showed up at your house and banging the door, how many times u shoot?
FIFY
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:56 am to oleheat
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Every situation is different, but I wouldn't advocate shooting through a door- ever. Sounds like a shortcut to prison
Exactly. Anyone who does that without being shot at first is stupid.
Just sit in the adjacent room, or kitchen. As soon as that front door is broken down and they enter, or someone comes through the window you ventilate their head or chest with a shotgun.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:56 am to oogabooga68
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shoot as many of them as possible just to be safe and take the chance that there will be good Patriots on the jury who will let you walk.
Especially if it's a woman. Believe all women right?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:59 am to LSUvegasbombed
quote:they arent.
hat sucks that they are allowed to harass you on your property
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:59 am to LSUvegasbombed
quote:Varies from State to State.
Realistically, if protesters showed up at your house and banging the door, can u shoot?
Most places, if you shoot someone thru the door, you are in deep kimchi.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:17 am to MikeBRLA
quote:these were documented cases we were studying and the instructor had taught for years and years.
Many instructors don’t have a clue what they are talking about regarding laws
quote:it's not that it's a law. it's a jury of your peers.
Please site a law that states what part of the body you are allowed and not allowed to shoot
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:26 am to iluvlsusports
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if they break in you are within your rights to kill them.
the thread premise is not breaking in. Its pounding on the door.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 9:28 am
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:32 am to bfniii
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these were documented cases we were studying and the instructor had taught for years and years.
Link me to one that has an actual intruder INSIDE someone's house getting shot, and the homeowner getting convicted.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:33 am to LSUvegasbombed
Believe it's called breaking and entering. That sucka breaks that lock and enters..........pump him full of lead. It's your domain.
Saw a single mom do that on a site. Maggot was pounding on her door, finally broke in and entered. She pumped him with nice spray of bullets. Cops basically told her to relax......no more boggy man....he dead.
Actually I would suggest all women take weapons training.
Saw a single mom do that on a site. Maggot was pounding on her door, finally broke in and entered. She pumped him with nice spray of bullets. Cops basically told her to relax......no more boggy man....he dead.
Actually I would suggest all women take weapons training.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:34 am to CelticDog
The real problems will emerge when these vile clowns start trying to burn down homes of those they disagree with, instead of the usual objects in the streets.
The more they are allowed to get away with, the more they will move up the crazy ladder. Believe that.
If they aren't dealt with harshly soon by the police, I believe there is a real chance some people will be forced to defend their homes in the harshest manner.
The more they are allowed to get away with, the more they will move up the crazy ladder. Believe that.
If they aren't dealt with harshly soon by the police, I believe there is a real chance some people will be forced to defend their homes in the harshest manner.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:37 am to LSUvegasbombed
The second they cross the threshold, you would be within your rights. The only question after that is what brand of bleach to use to clean up the blood.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:40 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Link me to one that has an actual intruder INSIDE someone's house getting shot, and the homeowner getting convicted.
It happens, man. Remember this case? This guy hung himself, honestly.....
LINK
Life would be so much simpler if everyone left everyone else alone.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:48 am to oleheat
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Remember this case?
No I don't, but shite it looks like there were lot of weird extenuating circumstances there, and obviously some goofy laws in Minnesota (hell the article doesn't even articulate at all, what the law is there). It wasn't exactly a case that hinged on "shooting someone in the back" either.
In Louisiana, I would never advise someone to ask an intruder in your home to face you first, so you can look him in the eye, before deciding if he's a threat to you or your family or not.
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