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Rand vs Faucci yesterday

Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:58 am
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:58 am
So I have seen a brief clip where Fauci thinks he embarrassed Rand, but what is really the deal here? I did not know what the supposed testimony was and it seemed Fauci was trying to discredit Rand for not being in lockstep with him.

Was it the herd immunity argument again that Fauci has been against this whole time?
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118862 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:04 pm to
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Was it the herd immunity argument again that Fauci has been against this whole time?




He was for it before he was against it.
Posted by NittanyLion
Nashville
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:04 pm to
Paul repeatedly made bogus assertions and Fauci corrected him every time.

That's about it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Paul repeatedly made bogus assertions and Fauci corrected him every time.



Not really.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

Paul repeatedly made bogus assertions and Fauci corrected him every time.

That's about it.


But thats not really what happened. Rand was calling Fauci out and Fauci kept saying Rand misunderstood the facts or that Fauci had access to more studies etc etc.

Fauci got visibly pissed too.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:08 pm to
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NittanyLion


quote:

Paul repeatedly made bogus assertions and Fauci corrected him every time.


You are not among your cult here. Go check your shorts JoePa.

quote:

That's about it.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:10 pm to
In my very extensive experience, whenever a physician starts citing nebulous "studies" they claim to have access to but won't cite, they're making shite up
Posted by rstamp1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:10 pm to
Rand was interviewed on Fox News yesterday and he was mentioning some studies and mathematicians believe herd immunity for Covid is much lower than other viruses.

Makes a good point in that New York has had no spikes. There is no way they social distance and hand wash that much better than the rest of America.
Posted by NittanyLion
Nashville
Member since Nov 2017
629 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:11 pm to
That isn't what happened. You should watch it, or at least read a transcript.

Paul looked childish and uninformed.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
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21010 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:13 pm to
If you believe that 22% herd immunity number coming out of New York then you probably believe in the tooth fairy and santa claus as well. Faucci is quoting one study, there is another study that specifically backs up Rand Paul's assertion that cross immunity is a factor.
Posted by Tigerpaul1969
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:13 pm to
Does everyone not realize that Fauci is nothing but a political hack?

The guy made his name by killing a bunch of gays with a banned cancer therapy, AZT (banned because all it did was kill patients) yet being considered a hero by that same gay community.

He sits on his throne atop the main entity dispensing government largesse to universities and big pharma relating to immunology like some type of pharaoh of old.
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:13 pm to
Fauci squirmed around just like you would expect a federal bureaucrat to do.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:15 pm to
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Paul looked childish


That is an opinion. I do not share it. But, you are entitled to an opinion that differs from my own.

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and uninformed.



Well...isn't the entire idea of having an "expert" come and answer questions meant to have the 'informed' provide insight for the 'underinformed'?

Fauci is a bit of a "little man's syndrome" sufferer and is an a-hole, at times.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118862 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:16 pm to
The biggest factor that lowered Sweden and Scandinavian countries death rates below the U.S. are comorbidities. Neither Rand or Fauci mentioned that factor.

The bottom line is if the U.S. didn't have a such a large population of fat fricks, especially overweight +70 year olds, mask, social distancing, and the rest of the lockdown bull shite wouldn't be needed.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:16 pm to
It's like 2 banty roosters fighting over a dead hen with a buzzard flying overhead.
Posted by NittanyLion
Nashville
Member since Nov 2017
629 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:17 pm to
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Well...isn't the entire idea of having an "expert" come and answer questions meant to have the 'informed' provide insight for the 'underinformed'?


That wasn't what Paul was after.

The entire exchange is available if you missed it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123951 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:30 pm to
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Good for Rand!

Below is part of a discussion we had here in May, with an illustration I put together making the same point. Flattening the curve was never about preventing cases. It was about preventing hospital overload.
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Flattening the curve was never about getting "on the back end of it" or getting "past it."

Flattening the curve served ONE PURPOSE ONLY -- to prevent overflooding of our hospital care capacity. Flattening the curve had nothing to do with lowering total cases. It was to prevent a surge of cases over a short timeframe.

Relative to the question you posed without apparently knowing the answer, this is how a curve works:



LINK
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
14265 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:32 pm to
Rand took Fauci to the woodshed.

It’s amazing how Iibs blame everything Covid on Trump yet make Fauci into an icon.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24785 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:14 pm to
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Paul repeatedly made bogus assertions and Fauci corrected him every time.


Weird, cuz Fauci performed about six 180's during the pandemic.
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