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Rand vs Faucci yesterday
So I have seen a brief clip where Fauci thinks he embarrassed Rand, but what is really the deal here? I did not know what the supposed testimony was and it seemed Fauci was trying to discredit Rand for not being in lockstep with him.

Was it the herd immunity argument again that Fauci has been against this whole time?


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re: Rand vs Faucci yesterday
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Was it the herd immunity argument again that Fauci has been against this whole time?




He was for it before he was against it.


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NittanyLion
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re: Rand vs Faucci yesterday
Paul repeatedly made bogus assertions and Fauci corrected him every time.

That's about it.


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re: Rand vs Faucci yesterday
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Paul repeatedly made bogus assertions and Fauci corrected him every time.



Not really.


lsu777
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re: Rand vs Faucci yesterday
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Paul repeatedly made bogus assertions and Fauci corrected him every time.

That's about it.


But thats not really what happened. Rand was calling Fauci out and Fauci kept saying Rand misunderstood the facts or that Fauci had access to more studies etc etc.

Fauci got visibly pissed too.


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re: Rand vs Faucci yesterday
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NittanyLion


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Paul repeatedly made bogus assertions and Fauci corrected him every time.


You are not among your cult here. Go check your shorts JoePa.

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That's about it.


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Tiguar
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re: Rand vs Faucci yesterday
In my very extensive experience, whenever a physician starts citing nebulous "studies" they claim to have access to but won't cite, they're making shite up


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rstamp1
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re: Rand vs Faucci yesterday
Rand was interviewed on Fox News yesterday and he was mentioning some studies and mathematicians believe herd immunity for Covid is much lower than other viruses.

Makes a good point in that New York has had no spikes. There is no way they social distance and hand wash that much better than the rest of America.


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re: Rand vs Faucci yesterday
That isn't what happened. You should watch it, or at least read a transcript.

Paul looked childish and uninformed.


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FreddieMac
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re: Rand vs Faucci yesterday
If you believe that 22% herd immunity number coming out of New York then you probably believe in the tooth fairy and santa claus as well. Faucci is quoting one study, there is another study that specifically backs up Rand Paul's assertion that cross immunity is a factor.


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Tigerpaul1969
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re: Rand vs Faucci yesterday
Does everyone not realize that Fauci is nothing but a political hack?

The guy made his name by killing a bunch of gays with a banned cancer therapy, AZT (banned because all it did was kill patients) yet being considered a hero by that same gay community.

He sits on his throne atop the main entity dispensing government largesse to universities and big pharma relating to immunology like some type of pharaoh of old.


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LSU Patrick
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re: Rand vs Faucci yesterday
Fauci squirmed around just like you would expect a federal bureaucrat to do.


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BlackHelicopterPilot
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re: Rand vs Faucci yesterday
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Paul looked childish


That is an opinion. I do not share it. But, you are entitled to an opinion that differs from my own.

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and uninformed.



Well...isn't the entire idea of having an "expert" come and answer questions meant to have the 'informed' provide insight for the 'underinformed'?

Fauci is a bit of a "little man's syndrome" sufferer and is an a-hole, at times.


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re: Rand vs Faucci yesterday
The biggest factor that lowered Sweden and Scandinavian countries death rates below the U.S. are comorbidities. Neither Rand or Fauci mentioned that factor.

The bottom line is if the U.S. didn't have a such a large population of fat fricks, especially overweight +70 year olds, mask, social distancing, and the rest of the lockdown bull shite wouldn't be needed.


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re: Rand vs Faucci yesterday
It's like 2 banty roosters fighting over a dead hen with a buzzard flying overhead.


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NittanyLion
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re: Rand vs Faucci yesterday
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Well...isn't the entire idea of having an "expert" come and answer questions meant to have the 'informed' provide insight for the 'underinformed'?


That wasn't what Paul was after.

The entire exchange is available if you missed it.


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re: Rand vs Faucci yesterday
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Image: https://i.postimg.cc/QN1wWqN9/Capture-F.png

Good for Rand!

Below is part of a discussion we had here in May, with an illustration I put together making the same point. Flattening the curve was never about preventing cases. It was about preventing hospital overload.
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Flattening the curve was never about getting "on the back end of it" or getting "past it."

Flattening the curve served ONE PURPOSE ONLY -- to prevent overflooding of our hospital care capacity. Flattening the curve had nothing to do with lowering total cases. It was to prevent a surge of cases over a short timeframe.

Relative to the question you posed without apparently knowing the answer, this is how a curve works:

Image: https://i.imgur.com/Z35ARNo.jpg


LINK


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PorkSammich
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re: Rand vs Faucci yesterday
Rand took Fauci to the woodshed.

It’s amazing how Iibs blame everything Covid on Trump yet make Fauci into an icon.


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i am dan
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re: Rand vs Faucci yesterday
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Paul repeatedly made bogus assertions and Fauci corrected him every time.


Weird, cuz Fauci performed about six 180's during the pandemic.


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