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re: Rand Paul wants you to be 70 before you can draw Social Security
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:42 am to stout
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:42 am to stout
Real men used to lay their pick down and leave the coal mine for the last time and die of the black lung a year or two later
Sad that you soys need your social security blanket
Sad that you soys need your social security blanket
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Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:43 am to SloaneRanger
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50% tax on foreign remittances, with the money going towards SS. Will help solve a couple of problems.
Pennies on the dollar. Won't do shite
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:43 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:welfare recipients are forced to pay into the system? Link?
That's not how welfare programs work
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:45 am to stout
I happen to agree with raising social security. It would force able bodied people to work instead of relying on something they shouldn't be relying on. The one thing that I would like to see to offset it is Medicare lowered to 60 or even 58. People might actually live and work longer if they are provided healthcare a few years sooner.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:45 am to UncleFestersLegs
SS is a more generous welfare program than others.
That's why it's such a huge albatross.
That's why it's such a huge albatross.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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Pennies on the dollar. Won't do shite
I mean it was $148 billion in 2017, so probably closer to $200 billion today
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:49 am to stout
Given the shape of this country, I doubt many will enjoy much quality of life past 70…. Modern medicine is what is keeping the population alive…
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:49 am to Hangover Haven
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It's my money, I worked for it... Welfare recipients get other people's money.
Look at the past tense in your first sentence and then think about how that impacts your second sentence.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:50 am to dcbl
The only reason it needs to be solvent is to hold off the masses from getting upset. SSI should be payable with money earn with a proper interest accrued. Once you start drawing it you only get what’s been taken plus that concurrent interest till it depleted. In addition no additional taxes should be paid towards it. If they wanted to add language for those hefty earners of say 10 million that SS although paid is not considered collectible I’m sure they could be okay
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:50 am to AndyJ
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I mean it was $148 billion in 2017, so probably closer to $200 billion today
My point stands.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:51 am to The Maj
quote:60-70 are go years. 70-80 are slow go. Over 80 no go
Given the shape of this country, I doubt many will enjoy much quality of life past 70
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:54 am to Hangover Haven
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I'm 61, put into it since I was 14.
I'm sure the SS recipients from 45 years ago are grateful for your tax dollars. Because that's where that money went.
Just like current taxpayers will be funding your retirement benefits.
I see that you have edited your post. You figured out that it's not "your" money, I take it?
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If they do, those assholes better give me back every dime I put into it with interest
They're not going to give you any of the other tax dollars they took from you since you were 14. Why would they give you those back?
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:54 am to JCdawg
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The one thing that I would like to see to offset it is Medicare lowered to 60 or even 58. People might actually live and work longer if they are provided healthcare a few years sooner.
That would bankrupt the country faster than Brittney Spears losing her sanity.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:58 am to wackatimesthree
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They're not going to give you any of the other tax dollars they took from you since you were 14. Why would they give you those back?
I made a comment based on someone saying "time to phase it out," it's not a fact, just a hypothetical... You and the others are looking way too much into it...
All I'm saying is, they better not phase it out just as I'm about to retire... And yes, I have retirement coming to me... And yes, I've paid into the SSI and income tax for years now, I'm getting something back for it...I don't give a frick what y'all think...
This post was edited on 11/1/25 at 8:28 am
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:58 am to wackatimesthree
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They're not going to give you any of the other tax dollars they took from you since you were 14. Why would they give you those back?
It boggles the mind how such a simple concept is so confusing to people.
Really goes to show you the power of marketing.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:59 am to Nosevens
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SSI should be payable with money earn with a proper interest accrued.
There's no way for them to do that. Think about what compound interest would be on 14% of your income since you started working.
Why so many people think SS is an actual retirement fund I will never know. Yeah, I know that was the sales pitch to the country when they started it, but who knew so many people believed politician's nonsense?
It's just an entitlement program. And thinking about it for 30 seconds will show you that.
The first SS collections began in 1937. The first benefits were paid in 1940.
So those people collecting benefits in 1940 were getting their own money back, after it grew for a whole 2 1/2 years?
Of course not. They were getting someone else's money who wasn't yet eligible for benefits, and that's how the program has always been run.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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It boggles the mind how such a simple concept is so confusing to people.
Really goes to show you the power of marketing.
Yep, and yep.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 8:00 am to Hangover Haven
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I made a comment based on someone saying "time to phase it out," it's not a fact, just a hypothetical..
The point stands.
Do you want to hold up phasing out Section 8 until you get all the tax money back that you have paid to fund Section 8 over your working life?
Posted on 11/1/25 at 8:04 am to stout
Considering that the life expectancy in the US was 64 when Social Security was created, 61 for men and 65 for women, with a age of 65 as the age you could draw on it, raising the age back up to being closer, still well over what one could expect to live makes sense.
Social Security was not mean to sustain most of the population for decades. This is just a fact.
Social Security was not mean to sustain most of the population for decades. This is just a fact.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 8:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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Do you want to hold up phasing out Section 8 until you get all the tax money back that you have paid to fund Section 8 over your working life?
You're just splitting hairs now...
Phase that shite out.... Section 8 housing does nothing for me... If it were up to me, income tax would be phased out...
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