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re: Rand Paul: "Somebody Was Spying On the Trump Campaign" (Video)
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:43 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:43 pm to buckeye_vol
We're talking about a fricking tweet. Calm your tits.
If the Obama administration IC tapped phones within the Trump apparatus based on a flimsy, amd now debunked russian collusion claim stoked by butt hurt democrats with eyes on the white house, the tweet stands. Comey didn't nothing to disprove that.
Eta
There is more evidence of HRC colluding with russians than trump. Don't kid yourself. This was political.
If the Obama administration IC tapped phones within the Trump apparatus based on a flimsy, amd now debunked russian collusion claim stoked by butt hurt democrats with eyes on the white house, the tweet stands. Comey didn't nothing to disprove that.
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legitimate investigations
There is more evidence of HRC colluding with russians than trump. Don't kid yourself. This was political.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 11:46 pm
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:46 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:That's not an excuse. If he's going to make accusations, and can't fit it into 160 characters to accurately communicate it, then use a different form of communication.
We're talking about a fricking tweet. Calm your tits.
quote:Well I don't think that's all Manafort is being investigated for.
IC tapped phones within the Trump apparatus based on a flimsy, amd now debunked russian collusion claim
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:49 pm to ForeLSU
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Given that I'm pretty much opposed to his trade, immigration and defense policies, I'm hoping he doesn't 'accomplish' much of anything.
I'll give you trade as I have mixed feelings about it and I'm watching with a keen eye the debate of free trade vs protectionism but his immigration and defense policies are pretty good.
After the complete chaos and lawless anarchy that the Obama administration promoted with illegal immigration, a strong message needs to be sent that will not be tolerated ever again and democrats are an abomination for allowing that to happen. And besides, Trump understands that demographics is destiny and the future and we have to control that destiny and future before it eats us alive. 2nd generation muslims are the problem in Europe and enabling the 3rd wave.
His defense policies pretty much mirror that of Reagan with it moderated towards a much more keen eye on our financial obligations in foreign organizations and treaty alliances. Nothing wrong with that.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:49 pm to KCT
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Couple of questions:
(1) Do you differentiate between legal & ILLEGAL immigration?
(2) Do you believe that America has the right to implement and enforce laws against ILLEGAL immigration?
Yes and yes. But I believe that we can only get out of the situation we're in with comprehensive reform and a clear understanding of the drivers, not via populist bullshite and boondoggle wall projects.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:52 pm to Sentrius
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His defense policies pretty much mirror that of Reagan
The threats are completely different now.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:52 pm to buckeye_vol
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That's not an excuse. If he's going to make accusations, and can't fit it into 160 characters to accurately communicate it, then use a different form of communication.
I already explained how the tweet stands based on what we already know. You are asking for nauseating specificity on a medium that demands economy. But it really doesn't matter what trump tweets, says, or does.
Liberals have made it clear that their method is 100% opposition and their goal is impeachment. You know it, and I know it.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:53 pm to Sentrius
The day you have to make that distinction is the day you should look up and say "How did it come to this?"
Besides...for the purposes of collusion the distinction is meaningless. His Presidency would be over in the highly unlikely event that such a thing were proven.
Besides...for the purposes of collusion the distinction is meaningless. His Presidency would be over in the highly unlikely event that such a thing were proven.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:56 pm to ForeLSU
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Yes and yes. But I believe that we can only get out of the situation we're in with comprehensive reform and a clear understanding of the drivers, not via populist bullshite and boondoggle wall projects.
Fair enough. But, a couple of observations:
(1) Comprehensive reform - Everytime I hear that, it sounds like a euphemism for blanket amnesty. Even if you make them jump thru a couple of hoops, theyre all still staying. At a minimum, don't the criminals need to be sent packing?
(2) Under Trump, illegal immigration is down 61% ALREADY. Anybody want to argue that's not because of the new sheriff in town?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:58 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:Then it's inexcusable to make serious accusations over Twitter, if it requires more than 160 characters. You can't use the "well the medium limits him" as an excuse when he has the most power and access of anybody to other methods.
You are asking for nauseating specificity on a medium that demands economy.
So then if his accusation is about those that are not him, then he could have clarified that, BUT he didn't.
So maybe you're the one who is ignoring the specificity, and rationalizing it after the fact since Trump never clarified it when given the opportunity. And you have the nerve to argue that we're playing semantics, when that's exactly what you're doing, with no support for it.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:01 am to Colonel Flagg
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The media and the left is acting like they didn't have surveillance on the Trump Campaign eventhough they openly admit the examples.
It's like we're living in bizarro world.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:03 am to buckeye_vol
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They said they don't have it on Trump himself. If only Trump would have said "wiretapped my associates" instead of "wiretapped my phones," this issue would have been resolved.
So is the FBI investigating Trump or Trump associates?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:04 am to Cali 4 LSU
quote:Trump associates like it's been reported for months.
So is the FBI investigating Trump or Trump associates?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:09 am to ForeLSU
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Based on what we know about Manafort, Page and Flynn, I would hope someone would be digging a little deeper. Not to mention Trump's financial ties through the years to prominent Russians...
I would hope someone would dig deeper & investigate Hillary's financial ties to Russia through her years as secretary of state. I mean, Russia got the uranium deal under her reign... where was/is the outrage!?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:12 am to KCT
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KCT
Sorry, I was going through here downvoting the left wing dumbasses and accidentally downvoted your post.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:13 am to Cali 4 LSU
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If only Trump would have said "wiretapped my associates" instead of "wiretapped my phones," this issue would have been resolved.
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It's like we're living in bizarro world.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:14 am to buckeye_vol
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OK. And if and when, someone in his administration or campaign, even unbeknownst to Trump, does something illegal, I guess I have no other choice than to include Trump in that.
No, but you will. And that's his point.
Do you honestly think these people would be under investigation if it weren't for their Trump connection, not their Russian connection?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:29 am to ForeLSU
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But I believe that we can only get out of the situation we're in with comprehensive reform and a clear understanding of the drivers, not via populist bullshite and boondoggle wall projects.
Trump has talked about this.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:34 am to buckeye_vol
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Trump associates like it's been reported for months.
Then why is it being reported (spun) as if the president is under current FBI investigation?
ETA: Top 4 headlines from quick search
FBI Director Confirms Agency Is Investigating Ties Between ...
FBI Director Confirms Agency Is Investigating Ties Between Trump And Russia It is the first official confirmation of the investigation.
huffingtonpost.com/entry/james-comey-confirm-investigation-t...
Trump's very bad day : FBI investigating Russia links as ...
Trump's wiretapping accusation hits its climax at FBI Director Comey's hearing. And the confirmation hearing for Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch starts.
cnn.com/2017/03/20/politics/trump-russia-gorsuch-...
Comey Confirms FBI Investigation of Trump - The Atlantic
FBI Director James Comey on Monday confirmed for the first time that the bureau is investigating whether Donald Trump's campaign coordinated with the Russian ...
LINK ...
FBI investigations into Trump-Russia ties yield little ...
Washington (CNN)The FBI has been conducting multiple investigations of alleged connections between Russia and Donald Trump, his presidential campaign or ...
cnn.com/2016/11/01/politics/donald-trump-russia-f...
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 12:42 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 5:09 am to Cali 4 LSU
We know there is an investigation of Trump Associates, and likely Trump himself and it has gone on for months. HOW do you do that without eavesdropping? Can't in this case.
Comey has some more splaining to do.
Comey has some more splaining to do.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 5:56 am to buckeye_vol
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Well knowing the character limitations, if he's going to make controversial and strong claims that can't be accurately communicated in a tweet, then that's his fault for using Twitter for it
Another never trump cuck that thinks that patterning with the Progs is some sort of solution....for what?
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