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Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by Tom288
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:49 pm to
Russian trolls these threads in his favorite pajamas:

Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:50 pm to
Would wear
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:53 pm to
Would also wear
Posted by Tom288
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:53 pm to
I can personally recommend the following excellent item:


Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:53 pm to
It lacks an assflap though. Might not wear.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:54 pm to
quote:

Do you mean except for what he's been preaching for 40+ years? Yeah, other than that, nah, he's not an isolationist.....



you really don't know the difference between iso and non-int...

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

t lacks an assflap though. Might not wear.




No assflap= deal breaker
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:58 pm to
That's 3 times you've denied your savior in this thread.

Did a rooster just crow?
Posted by Tom288
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:58 pm to
It actually comes with instructions on how to sew together the Reserve Maintenance Manual to create a nice, bespoke assflap.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:58 pm to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:59 pm to
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

That's 3 times you've denied your savior in this thread.

Did a rooster just crow?


and you've repeatedly deflected giving an answer to what in your mind makes ron paul isolationist.

Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:08 pm to
Geez, dude, just google "Ron Paul isolationist" and you'll get a hundred+ links discussing that he is.
Posted by Tom288
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:11 pm to
Interview from the first link I Google'd:

quote:

Wolf Blitzer: One final question, Congressman, before I let you go. In the past I’ve called you an isolationist, but I get hammered by your supporters out there …

Ron Paul: Good.

Wolf Blitzer: … when they write to me and they say, “Ron Paul is not an isolationist, he’s a non-interventionist”. Tell our viewers right now, once and for all, the difference between an isolationist and a non-interventionist.

Ron Paul: An isolationist is a protectionist that builds walls around their country, they don’t like the trade, they don’t like to travel about the world, and they like to put sanctions on different countries. So some of the people who call me that, are actually much more in favor of sanctions and limited trade, they’re the ones who don’t want to trade with Cuba and they want to put sanctions on anybody who blinks their eye at them. And yet, the opposite is what we believe in, we believe Nixon did the right thing by opening up trade doors with China, because that is when we quit killing each other and we are more at peace, which we better be, because they have become our banker. So non-intervention is quite a bit different since what the founders advised was to get along with people, trade with people, and to practice diplomacy, rather than having this militancy of telling people what to do and how to run the world and building walls around our own country. That is isolationism, it’s a far cry from what we believe in.

Wolf Blitzer: And just to be precise, you want to bring all the U.S. troops home, not just from Iraq and Afghanistan, but from Germany, Japan, South Korea and everyplace else around the world. Is that right?

Ron Paul: Yea, because I believe in national defense and our first responsibility, and probably one of the major responsibilities of the federal government, is the national defense. And fighting these wars does not help us, I mean, getting bogged down in Afghanistan brought the Soviet Union to its knees, and is bringing us to our knees, too. We’ve been there for ten years and it’s contributing to this huge deficit that we have. Those wars over there have contributed 4 trillion dollars worth of debt in the last 10 years. So yea, I want to bring them home, and I think we’ll be stronger for it, I think we’ll have a stronger national defense and we’ll have a lot stronger economy. If we’re serious about straightening this mess up, we have to deal with foreign policy as well monetary policy and fiscal policy and tax policy.


Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:12 pm to
It's not worth it, Tom. He'll just respond saying you are wrong.
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:15 pm to
I'm not even a huge Ron Paul fan, I disagree with him on tons of stuff. So I don't really have a dog in the fight, just posting what Google gave me as the very 1st link to Russian's advised search query.
Posted by Volmanac
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:23 pm to
I love the fact that everyone ITT is ignoring the reality that Rand is conning the neo-cons with stuff like this. The main goal of his "Stand with Israel" act is to start the process of ending most foreign aid by going after the lowest hanging fruit first. He's dressing it up with "Pro-Israel" blahblah in order to woo establishment donors. Just like he dresses it up with "they're killing Christians" stuff in front of Social Con crowds to achieve the same end.

Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:24 pm to
Yep, that description he gave fits any isolationist in history. I never understood why he always hid from the label while preaching the doctrine. It made him a huge hypocrite.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 11:02 pm to
not wanting to bomb countries, trading with them, and minding your own business doesn't make you an isolationist.

sounds like you're butthurt over ron paul.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

Rand Paul actually realizes that in order to get through the republican primaries he has to play pro Israel.


FIFY. Can't believe anyone thought otherwise. I find it annoying but in this instance am willing to overlook the pandering.
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