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Rand Paul Has Been Carousing With Bill Maher
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:02 pm
I thought I'd help Rolltide out a little with his duties as the PT board's unofficial Rand Paul press secretary.
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Sen. Rand Paul has spent quite a bit of time reaching out to liberals over the past year, and that list apparently now includes Bill Maher.
Paul, a libertarian-leaning Republican from Kentucky, and Maher, a comedian who shares some of Paul's libertarian views, had drinks two weeks ago, Maher told the liberal news outlet Salon.
The two met not long after Maher said on his HBO show that Paul is "interesting" and could "possibly" get his vote. If the 2016 presidential race came down to Paul and Hillary Clinton, Maher said he might consider backing Paul.
Maher said he was most attracted to Paul because of the senator's general views on foreign policy, though he's not a fan of his recent support for bombing ISIS.
"He's great on ending the empire, not getting into any more foreign entanglements -- I'm even to the left of him on the bombing (of ISIS); he wants to keep bombing ISIS, I want us to stop bombing altogether," he said.
While Maher donated $1 million to a super PAC backing President Barack Obama in 2012, he has been less than enthusiastic about a potential Clinton presidency, especially when it comes to her foreign policy.
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:03 pm to trackfan
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Rand Paul Has Been Carousing With Bill Maher
Thread title inaccurate, Toddy will be outraged
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:05 pm to trackfan
Good to hear. I cannot say I am a huge fan of Bill Maher, but he is an intelligent, popular man. Paul would definitely benefit from having him on his side.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:05 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Gotta say, if Rand keeps it up and doesn't go full retard for the primaries, as happens way too often for Republicans, I'd be tempted to vote for him.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:06 pm to trackfan
This is the wrong route the conservative movement is taking. We need law, order, and strength.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:18 pm to SundayFunday
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Bill Maher, but he is an intelligent,
you apparently never saw him on celebrity jeopardy
straight idiot
he only knows what he's told. He has teams of writers.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:46 pm to trackfan
I see this as a Rand vs Jeb matchup taking form.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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This is the wrong route the conservative movement is taking. We need law, order, and strength.
What the hell does that even mean?
Posted on 10/8/14 at 4:23 pm to TOKEN
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I see this as a Rand vs Jeb matchup taking form
pretty clear choice
Posted on 10/8/14 at 4:27 pm to trackfan
Maher's libertarian act is bullshite. When the shite comes down, he'll back whatever liberal Dem is left.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 4:31 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Do you think that Rand's effort to broaden the GOP base is all just a waste of time?
Posted on 10/8/14 at 4:33 pm to trackfan
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Do you think that Rand's effort to broaden the GOP base is all just a waste of time?
Nope, not at all. Someone should have done it sooner.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 4:37 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Nope, not at all. Someone should have done it sooner.
So I take it that you believe some Democrats and Independents are persuadable, but just not Maher?
Posted on 10/8/14 at 4:38 pm to trackfan
good
I would def consider voting for Rand
I would def consider voting for Rand
Posted on 10/8/14 at 4:40 pm to trackfan
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So I take it that you believe some Democrats and Independents are persuadable, but just not Maher?
Basically correct
Posted on 10/8/14 at 5:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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This is the wrong route the conservative movement is taking. We need law, order, and strength.
That's just vague enough, and emotionally appealing, to be a good campaign slogan. The RNC will be contacting your forthwith.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 5:27 pm to HempHead
I thought the Republican Party learned their lesson about bumper sticker politics
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 10/8/14 at 6:32 pm to SundayFunday
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Bill Maher, but he is an intelligent, popular man. Paul would definitely benefit from having him on his side
A Republican candidate having Bill Maher "on his side" is never a good thing for that candidate.
If Bill Maher had said he kind of likes Chris Christie, would you say that Christie would benefit in the Republican primaries from that?
Of course he wouldn't. And neither will Rand.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 6:34 pm to NHTIGER
in the primaries, no
in the general, yes
in the general, yes
Posted on 10/8/14 at 6:52 pm to Pilot Tiger
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in the primaries, no
in the general, yes
But Maher will NEVER, under any circumstances, support Rand Paul (or anyone else the GOP nominates) in the general election, no matter who the Democratic candidate is.
The full portion of the interview:
"To stay on what’s going on in American politics right now, I wanted to ask you about your feelings about Sen. Rand Paul. I know there’s been some exaggeration in terms of the degree to which you’re fond of him —
I never used those words. I said I was considering him and he was the first Republican I would even consider in a very long time.
And that’s because of his views on foreign policy?
Absolutely, yes. He’s great on ending the empire, not getting into any more foreign entanglements — I’m even to the left of him on the bombing [of ISIS]; he wants to keep bombing ISIS, I want us to stop bombing altogether.
Do you think he actually does, or do you think he’s positioning himself for 2016?
Well, he said that. He said he’s OK with air attacks. Because he’s not like his father, he’s much more…political, y’know. His father never gave an inch and [Rand Paul] really wants to be president.
I had drinks with him about two weeks ago. He’s a nice guy, he’s a smart guy. My big problem is I asked him about the environment, which is my big issue — because he had made a comment that was very similar to what Dick Cheney said about a month or two ago, which was basically, “Why are we talking the environment when ISIS is out there?”
I said, “Senator, y’know, you sounded just like Dick Cheney…”
How’d he take that?
Well, his answer on the environment was wholly unsatisfactory to me. Unless he comes around, big time, on that issue… I mean, I won’t even quote what he said to me, I’ll give him the chance to gather a better answer [laughs], but that would be a deal-breaker, right there, because Hillary Clinton said something awesome about [environmental issues] and I assume she’s going to be the other candidate. So, right on that issue, he would lose my vote.
I’m imagining a pained look on his face in response to you saying he’s like Dick Cheney. He doesn’t talk like this as much as he used to, but I think it’s pretty well understood that he’s not Cheney’s biggest fan.
Right. They’re diametrically opposed on a lot of that foreign policy stuff. But it’s very unfortunate that even he, who I consider, in the Republican Party, the most viable [presidential candidate], is apparently so far in the bubble on their environmental denial that he just doesn’t have an answer that sounds like it should come out of the mouth of any politician in the 21st century.
And coming from Kentucky — can you think of a worse circumstance for a politician in terms of being right on environmental issues?
Right, because we have to save those awesome jobs in coal-mining…
Which are dwindling, no matter what.
Yes, we have to save the worst job ever that is giving people black lung again.
Yeah, and he’s also said some stuff on mountaintop removal, which is just a horrible practice, that would probably make you retch.
[Laughs] It indeed would and, like I say, this is the deal-breaker issue with me. You’ve got to be good on this or, I’m sorry, not going to happen. But we’ll see."
Hillary Clinton vs. Rand Paul in the general, Mr. Maher? = see above.
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