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re: Quit using the "guns don't kill" argument

Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:17 pm to
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12941 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:17 pm to
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Explain why you think this is important. 


Or you could just read the 4 page thread where I've explained it numerous times.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:27 pm to
Guns aren't designed to kill...they are designed to fire bullets.

Now you can beat someone to death but they are poorly designed for that.

Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12941 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:29 pm to
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Guns aren't designed to kill...they are designed to fire bullets. 


For the purpose of killing, which is completely legal when justified.

Quit being afraid to tell liberals that guns are designed to kill and there's nothing wrong with it.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71809 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:31 pm to
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Or you could just read the 4 page thread where I've explained it numerous times.


You haven't explained it once. Now is your opportunity.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71809 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:35 pm to
Guns were invented for entertainment, then adapted for military use. People saw a technology that could be adapted to more easily kill people. Almost as if people kill people...
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:36 pm to
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Quit being afraid to tell liberals that guns are designed to kill and there's nothing wrong with it


When you stop trying to act superior by arguing what everyone else knows to be obvious and realize people are just screwing with you.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260582 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:36 pm to
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Quit using the "guns don't kill" argument


They don't. They are used to kill.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12941 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:45 pm to
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When you stop trying to act superior by arguing what everyone else knows to be obvious and realize people are just screwing with you.


Or you realize that taking the weak position of "guns don't kill" is a recipe to lose the debate.

I used to think just like you, afraid to challenge liberals. Try it when you get a chance. Tell everyone of your liberal friends that your guns are in fact designed to kill and ask them why that's wrong.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12941 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:46 pm to
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You haven't explained it once. Now is your opportunity


It's been explained numerous times. The fact that liberals keep forcing you to defend "guns don't kill" and you lose the debate doesn't change that fact.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71809 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:51 pm to
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It's been explained numerous times.


Not even once. It's likely because you can't and you're at least intelligent enough to know you'll get your arse handed to you if you try.

quote:

fact


You don't appear to know what this word means.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58027 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:52 pm to
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Guns were invented for entertainment,




What? I'm pretty sure people that used guns to feed their families for ages didn't view guns as entertainment.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12941 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:54 pm to
Firearms are designed to kill. That's not even in dispute. Do you go to your local gun store and ask for a gun that won't kill? Of course not. Do you think the police carry guns that won't kill?

Why are you afraid to admit that firearms are designed to kill? Are you afraid you won't be able to articulate to your liberal friends why killing is not wrong?

Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29792 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:54 pm to
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What? I'm pretty sure people that used guns to feed their families for ages didn't view guns as entertainment.


I assume he’s referencing early fireworks invented by the Chinese
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260582 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 9:18 pm to
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Why are you afraid to admit that firearms are designed to kill?


I have no idea what the purpose of this shitty thread

Guns dont kill. They are used to kill.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 9:19 pm to
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I used to think just like you


And what happened....Stroke? Brain Tumor?

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71809 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 9:33 pm to
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What? I'm pretty sure people that used guns to feed their families for ages didn't view guns as entertainment.


I didn't say anything about their uses "for ages," did I?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71809 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 9:35 pm to
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Firearms are designed to kill.


Cool story.

quote:

That's not even in dispute.


Neat. Then stop making this irrelevant point.

The rest of your post is useless.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7725 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 9:36 pm to
The pencil caused my kid's math mistake.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21905 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 9:57 pm to
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Well, then gun owners should get a refund for their purchase. Because 99.9% of them have failed to ever kill a person.



Mine haven't killed anyone since I left the Military.

Posted by BigAppleBucky
New York
Member since Jan 2014
1807 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 10:59 am to
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Where did you get those numbers?

CDC numbers

Latest complete data is from 2016. See table I23

Suicide by firearm 22,018
Assault (homicide) by discharge of frearms 12,979
Discharge of frearms, undetermined intent 282
Accidental discharge of frearms 489

There is also a category, "legal intervention" with 530 deaths, but it does not break out firearms for those. Some of those would be legal executions and some maybe choke hold deaths or clubing, etc. But one would assume a good number of the 530 were via firearms.

Edit, forgot the link. Here:
CDC
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 11:00 am
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