Higher overall turnout on necessarily equates to greater raw vote numbers. But the spreads increased in both. Democrats already had the advantage in both places. In the case of Chester you already had the Democrats with a huge 10 percentage point difference.

So more people turned out for Donald Trump but overall voter participation increases by almost 1 million. That also means that you are going to get turnout for Biden or another Democrat.

If you are looking for the real cheat, my guess is that you look at Wisconsin and Nevada.

Like I've said. If you want to avoid a repeat of this you have to concentrate on the local level

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Posted by ChineseBandit58

Pearland, TX

Member since Aug 2005

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Posted on 9/24/21 at 11:52 am to N.O. via West-Cal

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I have no problem with audits. I don’t really get the rest of your post, perhaps bc I don’t have a “side.”

but you asked this:

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He who claims something extraordinary has the burden of providing the evidence

I merely pointed out the fact that the 'extraordinary' claim is that there was no election fraud.

NOW - I am willing to accept it as possible that the 'election' process was all OK (not much more than "normal" inconsequential normal cheating activity) - because I still think the greatest "fraud" was the 7 years of constant propaganda = deliberate gaslighting of the public + 'legal' hobbling of the Trump administration for 4 years with HOAXes (Russia collusion investigations + impeachments + non-prosecution of riots, arson, physical assaults, looting, harassments, etc. + MSM censorship of pro-administration views + complicity of hi-tech, media, entertainment, hi-finance, big-box corporations' "private" censorship + deep-state foot-dragging (Paul Ryan et al) on all Trump initiatives + Judicial collusion to delay all Trump initiatives (e.g. border wall) ----- all of which saturated the public consciousness and thus hobbled the effectiveness of the administration. Which of course was 'interpreted' by the media as ineffectiveness.

And in spite of all this, Trump accomplished more in his first 4 years than any other president in my 83 years.

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Posted by Fat Bastard

alter hunter

Member since Mar 2009

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Posted on 7/29/22 at 11:00 pm to Pettifogger

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Bumping this now that it's definitively shown there was no fraud in Arizona

LINK

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Posted by LakeCharles

USA

Member since Oct 2016

5424 posts

Posted on 7/30/22 at 12:46 pm to Fat Bastard

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to Pettifogger

These people keep believing their sources when time after time they are proven to be wrong. It's the definition of insanity. Muh Russians. Biggest drop in fuel prices. Safe and effective. Most secure, ever.

This post was edited on 7/30/22 at 12:47 pm

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Posted by dgnx6

Member since Feb 2006

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Posted on 7/30/22 at 1:34 pm to N.O. via West-Cal

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would answer many of the questions in the manner you likely desire, but you've got the whole thing backward. He who claims something extraordinary has the burden of providing the evidence of it and proving his case. What I know, beyond doubt, is that those claiming election fraud were not able to gain any traction in any court. In our system, that means there either wasn't substantial fraud or the aggrieved side lacks the ability to prove its case. That is dreadful if it is so, but it doesn't change anything.

There is proof. The argument now is there is no remedy because inauguration happened.

That’s the answer.

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