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re: Question for pro choice advocates
Posted on 5/26/19 at 7:17 am to Homesick Tiger
Posted on 5/26/19 at 7:17 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:Why?
The key words here are "with a heartbeat".
Every animal on the planet has a heartbeat. Only a very few are sapient .. as demonstrated here on a daily basis.
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Posted on 5/26/19 at 7:21 am to Homesick Tiger
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Amazing how a four letter word determines the definition of a living thing. Oh yeah, the word - born.
You think birth can be the only difference between a fetus and a baby?
Posted on 5/26/19 at 7:22 am to Homesick Tiger
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The key words here are "with a heartbeat". The word "born" shouldn't be the deciding factor on if a thing with a heartbeat is a fetus or a baby.
So yes.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 7:26 am to BurningHeart
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Except for 100% changing her life by having to carry and give birth to a baby she never wanted
I agree. We should absolutely support the legal killing of a child if it's inconvenient to the parent or society. Who are we to judge?
The few months a mother is inconvenienced outweighs the potential life of a child.
Last year my brother lost his job and his wife was a stay at home mom. He should've just stabbed his 8 month old in the head, cut him up with a hacksaw, and thrown him in the trash. That way he wouldn't have to be poor or inconvenient.
And it's absolutely their right as a parent. After all, the kid couldn't survive without their constant care, so you might as well kill it.
This post was edited on 5/26/19 at 7:30 am
Posted on 5/26/19 at 7:29 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Every animal on the planet has a heartbeat.
Let me know when a human fetus with a heartbeat morphs into some other animal.
How do you feel about executing a baby born with a defect causing very low brain function and extreme retardation? Say it had intellegnce on par with a monkey. Just kill it, right?
Posted on 5/26/19 at 7:39 am to Nguyener
quote:The POINT is that “heartbeat” is NOT the factor which distinguishes between things OK to kill versus those it is not OK to kill, unless you are a vegetarian or a Hindu.
Let me know when a human fetus with a heartbeat morphs into some other animal.
quote:Since I have already said that I am OK with precluding elective abortion at 12-20 weeks, this is a really stupid question.
How do you feel about executing a baby born with a defect causing very low brain function and extreme retardation? Say it had intellegnce on par with a monkey. Just kill it, right?
Posted on 5/26/19 at 7:45 am to AggieHank86
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Since I have already said that I am OK with precluding elective abortion at 12-20 weeks
I can never wrap my head around why. It just seems bizarre to me to be OK with destroying a human life up until some point you decided on.
Either you support the defense of human life or you don't. Because every single argument you've posted so far can be used to justify killing a 30 year old mentally retarded person.
At least own your argument.
You believe inconvenience is justification for killing a human life.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 7:47 am to Nguyener
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The few months a mother is inconvenienced outweighs the potential life of a child.
I have four kids and none of them went from birth to moving out in their own in a few months.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 7:52 am to TBoy
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have four kids and none of them went from birth to moving out in their own in a few months.
Your wife could've given them up for adoption. Or stopped having kids after the 1st one. Did yall not understand how that worked?
Posted on 5/26/19 at 7:52 am to Nguyener
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I can never wrap my head around why. It just seems bizarre to me to be OK with destroying a human life up until some point you decided on.
You already do that. The sperm is alive and it is human life. The egg is alive and it is human life. Life is a continuum. Historically some have argued that it is a grave sin to waste and kill sperm. You arbitrarily draw the line at your point. We draw the line at a later point. All we disagree on is where to arbitrarily draw the line.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 7:55 am to TBoy
The good thing is that evil people like you will be on the wrong side of history just like slave owners
Posted on 5/26/19 at 7:56 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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You think birth can be the only difference between a fetus and a baby?
Well that seems to be the argument between a fetus and a human being. Do you have other examples? I'm listening.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 7:56 am to TBoy
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Historically some have argued that it is a grave sin to waste and kill sperm
This has been the historical view of the radical left wing loons like yourself
Dont try and lump normal ppl into this nonsense
Posted on 5/26/19 at 7:58 am to SDVTiger
Tboy would have been a huge fan of the 3/5 of a person rule for black people
Posted on 5/26/19 at 8:02 am to SDVTiger
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Dont try and lump normal ppl into this nonsense
I understand your mental problem. In your mind there is what you decide to promote today and everything else is “nonsense.”
You should be posting your thoughts where there are no other people. Other people make things messy. They don’t always act or think the way you imagine they should. But if you allow yourself the privilege of looking at things from other perspectives, you may find that sometimes what you say doesn’t reflect the best understanding.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 8:03 am to TBoy
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The sperm is alive and it is human life.
No. It isn't. I've seen you make this argument before.
It is literally impossible for a sperm or an egg alone to become a human life. That has never and will never happen.
Those two things join together and create an entirely new being with an entirely new and unique genetic code. That new unique code and new unique cell is human life.
quote:
Historically some have argued that it is a grave sin to waste and kill sperm.
It is a grave sin to masturbate. Aside from "wasting sperm", masturbating is unhealthy, addicting, and just pathetic. But it isn't illegal. Sinning and legality are two different concepts.
There is a difference between something being illegal and something being immoral.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 8:05 am to TBoy
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But if you allow yourself the privilege of looking at things from other perspectives, you may find that sometimes what you say doesn’t reflect the best understanding.
What is the perspective of the innocent life that you support killing out of selfish convenience?
Posted on 5/26/19 at 8:25 am to TBoy
quote:
But if you allow yourself the privilege of looking at things from other perspectives, you may find that sometimes what you say doesn’t reflect the best understanding.
You should learn from your own advice. But you are a far left wing loon so i doubt you will
Posted on 5/26/19 at 8:27 am to Nguyener
quote:
It is literally impossible for a sperm or an egg alone to become a human life.
It's also impossible for a fetus alone to become a baby.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 8:28 am to Homesick Tiger
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Well that seems to be the argument between a fetus and a human being.
It only seems that way if you force it to seem that way.
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