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Posted by dantes69
Boise, Id.
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:39 pm to
with tricky dick it was his own party leaders that met with him and told him his actions were unacceptable and that he would have to step down, compare that with BC or BHO whose party,as well as the msm, whored themselves to protect them.
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That is all you need to know between the 2 party's
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11530 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:40 pm to
He's got Michael Cohen and David Pecker saying he directed campaign finance crimes.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44435 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:41 pm to
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He's got Michael Cohen and David Pecker saying he directed campaign finance crimes.



That's not evidence. That's hearsay.

Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11530 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:41 pm to
Sure, but that was at the very end. They carried Nixon's water until they couldn't anymore.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11530 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:42 pm to
Eyewitness testimony is evidence. Cohen would know what Trump directed him to do, no?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:44 pm to
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Until there is evidence of Trump doing something illegal, there is no comparison between the two situations.


Sigh. You just made my point for me.

OP's question doesn't require that anyone be guilty of anything at all. He asked if supporters tend to draw up protectively when attacked.

That's it. This has zero to do with whether Trump (or Nixon for that matter) is actually guilty of anything.

God you people can't think straight sometimes.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44435 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Cohen would know what Trump directed him to do, no?


What did he direct Cohen to do?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44435 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:46 pm to
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Sigh. You just made my point for me.


Not really. You're under the assumption I'm a Trump supporter.

I'm not.

I just like pointing out disingenuous bullshite.

Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

That's not evidence. That's hearsay.


you need to bone up on your legal terminology.

There is evidence that Trump engaged in crimes, he has one co-conspirator stating so under oath.
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
6304 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:47 pm to
thanks Wolfhound and TigerDoc. that's a straightforward answer.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44435 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:48 pm to
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There is evidence that Trump engaged in crimes


What crimes?

Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38944 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:48 pm to
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Link or links?
what did I say
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
13360 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:53 pm to
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Until there is evidence of Trump doing something illegal, there is no comparison between the two situations.

perhaps

(and I agree no foul till proven)

. . . however ever since we've haD Nixon's "I am not a CROOK" (and for that matter Clinton's, "I did not have sexual relations") a President's word is not as sacrosanct as it once was. Trump want's us to believe him, take his word that nothing happened, and you have to be honest all the way across the board for that to happen.
Posted by TOPAL
Member since Mar 2010
4952 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:54 pm to
Hey Pinkie, if you are a fair and honorable person who is against all illegal behavior we would need to investigate all parties. You do want a fair tolerant country, correct? Liberals are always worried about discrimination and fairness, why should Trump be picked on?
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

What crimes?


i can't figure out if you are actually a retard or just playing one.

LINK
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44435 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

a President's word is not as sacrosanct as it once was. Trump want's us to believe him, take his word that nothing happened, and you have to be honest all the way across the board for that to happen.


I'm with you 100%. I don't believe damn near anything Trump says.

But until there is hard evidence that Trump has committed a crime he is innocent and comparing him to Nixon is assinine.

Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14503 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:55 pm to
Obama 1000 times worst or something like that.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44435 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

LINK


I see a bunch of crimes Cohen committed. I don't see anything Trump committed.

"Trump told me to do it" is not evidence. Especially for someone who is trying to get out of serving jail time.

Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11530 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

"Trump told me to do it" is not evidence. Especially for someone who is trying to get out of serving jail time.


It may not be proof, but it is evidence. Cohen says SDNY has corroborating evidence (e.g. the tape he leaked to the press, probably others). Pecker (and probably his deputy too) has sworn that the stories they "caught and killed" were for a campaign purpose. SDNY has given Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg immunity regarding testimony from the Trump org side. Guiliani implied that there were multiple purposes including to affect the campaign. How compelling all this should be is of course debateable but it's evidence.
This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 4:13 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 4:14 pm to
Nothing remotely similar

There was evidence during Watergate. This is pure angst over losing an election
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