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re: Question for our board liberals re: IRS, DOJ, DNC, FBI, Clinton. Y'all have no balls.

Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:52 pm to
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Why did you leave out all of the drug running, money laundering and many murders that the Clinton's had done for them over the years?


Well since you brought it up

Seriously though. While the "trail of dealth" behind the Clintons is pretty crazy, these multiple vaults of missing communications are verified occurrences. It is federal law that this stuff is preserved, yet all the questionable stuff just happens to vanish. Why?
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:54 pm to
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omg, no way, me and some other liberals just killed some kids for the clintons to eat at our next satanic ritual, and then i come on here and see this, that is too funny! cant talk now though, were making a moloch statue that has baby blood coming out of his horns



That's good.



Now, care to address the OP?
Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:58 pm to
Remember back when Obama said he had the most transparent administration ever?
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:05 pm to
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Remember back when Obama said he had the most transparent administration ever?


Not a single scandal, and not a smidgen of corruption.

You know how you can tell someone is lying?
Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:26 am to
Funny how not one liberal answered the question seriously.

I guess their silence is an admission of guilt.
Posted by Flame Salamander
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:19 am to
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(Flame Salamander) Why did you leave out all of the drug running, money laundering and many murders that the Clinton's had done for them over the years? Jesus Christ, you frickers that try to cover up their crimes make me sick.....how do you live with yourself?


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Well since you brought it up

Seriously though. While the "trail of dealth" behind the Clintons is pretty crazy, these multiple vaults of missing communications are verified occurrences. It is federal law that this stuff is preserved, yet all the questionable stuff just happens to vanish. Why?



Why are you glossing over what I just said.....as a board liberal?

There are many, many books, video tapes and other documents written about those subjects and others going all of the way back to the 80's.....prior to when Bill was president. Some of them are probably still available for purchase.

Just because you are probably too young to remember the vehemence and hatred of the Clinton's back then and the calls for impeachment, arrests and imprisonment due to these and other alleged crimes doesn't mean that they didn't happen.

This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 2:24 am
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:37 am to
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Why are you glossing over what I just said.....as a board liberal?

There are many, many books, video tapes and other documents written about those subjects and others going all of the way back to the 80's.....prior to when Bill was president. Some of them are probably still available for purchase.

Just because you are probably too young to remember the vehemence and hatred of the Clinton's back then and the calls for impeachment, arrests and imprisonment due to these and other alleged crimes doesn't mean that they didn't happen


Oh shite, you were serious

I thought you were fricking around, bringing up the trail of death crumbs behind the Clintons as an absurd conspiracy theory to discredit any accusation about the missing communication. I haven't delved into the body path, but it really wouldn't surprise me. I went to a Halloween party as Vince Foster last year.

So you say the deletion of comms stinks as well then?
Posted by Flame Salamander
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:45 am to
I'm was being part serious and part mocking. But you apparently are buying every negative rumor that you hear..... hook, line and sinker. The IRS topic was pretty thoroughly researched and discredited.....why do you include it in your title, etc.


I will tell you one thing that I am 100% serious about though. That the Clintons are absolutely dirty politicians that will not let any obstacle stand in their way to power.

They and their minions loaded up the DNC last election cycle and then rigged the last Democratic Primary so that she would win. There was no democratic process. (Example.....do you realize that in 6 secret'coin flips' for delegate seats vs. Sanders that she 'won' all 6?)

Why did she have a separate email server? There is no excuse for it except to keep things secret. It was said that when Obama found out about it that he blew his top just like everyone else did.

I don't believe that there is anything with serious legs behind the Russia Gate topic as it stands but do believe that there might be something worth looking into in re: the Clinton Foundation and email servers issues.


The amount of money in our politics is corrupting the elections. There are republicans just as corrupt as the Clintons.

Will you support the passage of legislation overturning the Citizen's United ruling that allows unlimited amounts of secret cash to be donated to the elections? Trump got $140M in secret donations last cycle and HRC got $34M. Let's get rid of all secret monies going toward elections.


Where did all of that money come from that went to Trump? Did it come from Russia? Who knows.....it is secret.....just like HRC's emails.




This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 3:31 am
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 3:39 am to
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I'm was being part serious and part mocking. But you apparently are buying every negative rumor that you hear..... hook, line and sinker.


Negative rumors on the dead bodies? No.

shite disappearing from records in multiple agencies throughout the Obama admin isn't a rumor. It took a couple years to recover the info in the IRS case. What about the rest?


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Why did she have a separate email server? There is no excuse for it except to keep things secret. It was said that when Obama found out about it that he blew his top just like everyone else did.


"Found out about it through the same reports you all did," eh?


I agree that Clinton is fricking dirty. Obama and at least half of the alphabet soup agencies are. That brings me to a related question... Why do you trust government that big if it can be corrupted, and populated with the corrupt?
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 4:10 am
Posted by seawolf06
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 3:42 am to
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You don't expect them to provide an answer do you?

-The hard drive failure rate at the IRS amongst those being investigated was astronomical.

-The lie that the email server didn't have backups.......found the backups? Whoops, they were destroyed by "accident" and coincidentally after Congress began asking questions. But trust us, we recovered "most" of them.

-Email server was wiped with bleachbit "like a clothe?" Cell phones and mobile devices smashed with hammers.......after being subpoenaed.

-Laptops under FBI control destroyed.

-5 months of text messages mysteriously go missing, coincidentally during the most crucial time in the investigation.


Yet most of the country doesn't bat an eye when the re-authorization of secret courts and corrupt spying on Americans comes before Congress.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 3:57 am to
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shite disappearing from records in multiple agencies throughout the Obama admin isn't a rumor. It took a couple years to recover the info in the IRS case.


You are trying to tie HRC's email servers issue and the cleansing of it to normal loss of docs across all government agencies? I would say that conspiratorially, that is along the lines of the Vince Foster murder by the Clintons rumors.

However, there have been documents intentionally destroyed by governmental agencies that were against the law. The NSA apparently destroyed docs regarding the warrantless wiretaps the W Bush ordered inre: 9/11, etc. But that doesn't fit your political attack now does it.

I am against a rogue government and don't believe that the issue is confined to one party or the other. Being partisan is not going to help correct the problems. You are being used by them when you fall to the level of partisanship that you are.

Citizen's United? What you got there? (crickets)

FISA re-authorization? What you got there? (crickets)
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 4:42 am
Posted by McChowder
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:04 am to
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. The IRS topic was pretty thoroughly researched and discredited.....why do you include it in your title, etc. 

Hahahahaha What? They just lost a multi-million dollar lawsuit.

The IRS chief tried to minimize the rash of hard drive failures by including all IRS employees in his stats. However, if you only look at the 100 or so people that could possibly be material witnesses in the investigation, that failure rate is astronomical. If I remember correctly, more than 40% or nearly half.

Also remember that the IRS lied several times, first denying there were backups of the server. After 8 months they discovered the backups but someone had ordered they be destroyed.

Also remember that Lerners cell phone had also been physically destroyed.
Posted by SoulGlo
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:06 am to
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normal loss of docs


there it is. At what point will you consider it not normal?


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The NSA apparently destroyed docs regarding the warrantless wiretaps the W Bush ordered inre: 9/11, etc. But that doesn't fit your political attack now does it.


Actually, it does fit the point of my last post. Government people with government power will do illegal things to cover up fricked up, illegal activity. Why are liberals so trusting of government programs and the people in them, unless of course they have an R next to their name? Why is a CEO at Goldman Sachs the devil incarnate, but when tapped by a D for cabinet office become trustworthy and angelic?

The government is a potential weapon, and it is so large that we can't see abuse until long after it is used on somebody. Shrink the government. Its powers are defined and limited in the Constitution for a reason.


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Citizen's United? What you got there? (crickets)


Shrink government to its designed, enumerated powers. Simplify tax and regulatory law. Make transparency real.

That is the solution to your money in politics problem. The less power there is to wield, the less cost effective "donations" become. Cutting the freedom of speech of the people is the opposite of the answer.


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FISA re-authorization? What you got there? (crickets)



frick FISA. Again, government power beyond the scope of what it should be. Trump getting spied on was the perfect opportunity to tell FISA supporters to go frick themselves. But that didn't happen
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 9:21 am
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:18 am to
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This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 9:20 am
Posted by SoulGlo
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Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:10 am to
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Yet most of the country doesn't bat an eye when the re-authorization of secret courts and corrupt spying on Americans comes before Congress.


This is simply mind blowing to me. There has never been a better time to argue against that program, and those with the means to stop it happily push it back through.
Posted by SoulGlo
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:52 am to
Seriously? Only one board liberal gave at least a straight answer on this?

NUTLESS.
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