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re: Putin Orders Third Troop Expansion Of War, Making Army 2nd Largest After China's
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:49 am to Night Vision
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:49 am to Night Vision
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Putin Orders Third Troop Expansion Of War, Making Army 2nd Largest After China's
But I thought Ukraine was collapsing.
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:50 am to WeeWee
When is Russia gonna run out of food, ammo, water, soliders?
What do the girls on the ground say?
What do the girls on the ground say?
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:50 am to Night Vision
So now we know how many Russian troops have been killed since the last conscription. About 180k
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:51 am to OBReb6
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The simple answer of the “rationality” he’s looking for is national security.
Russia's national security was never in question/doubt
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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Russia's invasion was an expensive, negative externality in the global economy that's cost trillions globally.
The US is the largest beneficiary of the global economy, and one of our closest economic partners (the EU) is really impacted.
Expand on this please
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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The Cuban Missile Criss was like 80 years ago. The USSR then is not Russia today (and even then, the USSR acted more rationally than Russia is acting currently). The international/global economy did not exist in the same way in the early 60s that it does post-Soviet collapse (when it exploded and the world developed more and faster than it had ever). We do not exist in the global economy of the 60s, today.
Thanks for the history lesson and not answering the question. It’s hilarious that this is how you guys think. Can never answer questions. The old DC dip and twirl.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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Russia's national security was never in question/doubt
Neither is ours when North Korea tests a nuke they can’t fire more than 100 miles. Yet we feel the need to take actions against it
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 9:54 am
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:53 am to BigPerm30
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What about if a completely fictional would never happen in real life but what if someone like the old Soviet Union set up missiles on an island very close to the US? I don’t know somewhere like Cuba for instance.
Then we would blockade the island and have the offensive missiles removed.
That’s an easy what if.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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US invading Sonora, Baja, Chihuana, and Sinaloa for no rational reason
Are you really going to argue nato expansion eastward was perfectly fine with russia, and putin never drew lines in the sand which all got crossed by nato/west?
No rational reason? Really?
So lets say the US told russia they cannot accept colombia to their defense union. They do it anyways.
Then we say ok you cant get any central american countries in your defense union. They do it anyways.
Then we say ok if you take mexico, you will force us to retaliate. They put in papers to bring mexico in the defense union.
We invade mexico in response.
Thats what happened, 100% rational
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:56 am to OBReb6
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Expand on this please
War causes disruption in global trade.
Disruption causes uncertainty. Uncertainty causes increase in the cost of doing business.
The reason why the global economy works is because of Pax Americana. That peace starts eroding and things get a lot more expensive for everyone.
That's why we live in the least violent times in human history, and why major international wars are largely extinct. We've had 3 major invasions (Iraq 1, Iraq 2, and Russia in Ukraine) since WW2 and 1 had UN support (the first Iraq War). The other major conflicts were typically sectarian conflicts that sometimes became proxy wars, but at their heart, were sectarian (Vietnam, Korea, about 100 conflicts in Africa, etc.).
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:56 am to BigPerm30
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Thanks for the history lesson and not answering the question
The history lesson explains why it wasn't a relevant question, but you know this.
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It’s hilarious that this is how you guys think. Can never answer questions.
It's pointless to answer irrelevant questions.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:56 am to Cuthbert13
We’ve been mad at Russia ever since they interrupted our cute little CIA war in Syria
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:57 am to OBReb6
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Neither is ours when North Korea tests a nuke they can’t fire more than 100 miles.
When have we invaded North Korea?
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:57 am to doubleb
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Then we would blockade the island and have the offensive missiles removed.
That’s an easy what if.
So we’d have an “unprovoked invasion” of a big country into a smaller country which is essentially bad? fricking retards.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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When have we invaded North Korea?
We sanction the shite out of the all the time
Which of our invasions would you prefer we discuss?
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:57 am to OBReb6
Defensive alliance, bro.
Why does China keep aggressively surrounding us?
Why does China keep aggressively surrounding us?
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:58 am to Cuthbert13
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Are you really going to argue nato expansion eastward was perfectly fine with russia, and putin never drew lines in the sand which all got crossed by nato/west?
I think Putin created a talking point that he knew would be repeated by NPCs, and it's clearly still working based on this thread.
I do not think Putin actually fears NATO. As has been pointed out, he's in a much worse position re: NATO today than he was pre-invasion.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:58 am to sta4ever
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No it’s not lol. If Russia truly believed this was an existential threat, then they’d react a lot more wildly than what we’re seeing out of them. This is a very easy case of a Geopolitical War.
Now for Ukraine, it can easily be argued that their very existence is on the line, and Russia is an existential threat to them.
You've been wrong about every aspect of this for over two years.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:59 am to OBReb6
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We sanction the shite out of the all the time
And?
Russia could have sanctioned Ukraine. There wouldn't have been a major international response to that.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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I do not think Putin actually fears NATO. As has been pointed out, he's in a much worse position re: NATO today than he was pre-invasion.
NATO is the US military. Let’s get that out of the way. You saying Putin doesn’t fear the US military setting up bases along its border when he told them that was the line not to cross? Mother fricker
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