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PSA: when bioweapons escape containment

Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:04 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:04 pm
Given the speculation about China, I give you a precedent...

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/453424-house-calls-for-investigation-into-whether-pentagon-tried-to

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July 16, 2019 - 08:40 PM EDT
House calls for investigation into whether Pentagon tried to weaponize ticks


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The House has called for an investigation into whether the Department of Defense experimented with weaponized ticks decades ago and if it affected the spread of Lyme disease across the country. The amendment, introduced by Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.), would have the Defense Department’s Inspector General “conduct a review of whether the Department of Defense experimented with ticks and other insects regarding use as a biological weapon between the years of 1950 and 1975.” Under the amendment, the inspector general would will also have to disclose “the scope of such an experiment” and determine whether any insects “were released outside of any laboratory by accident or experimental design.”


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With Lyme disease and other tick-borne diseases exploding in the United States—with an estimated 300,000 to 437,000 new cases diagnosed each year and 10-20 percent of all patients suffering from chronic Lyme disease—Americans have a right to know whether any of this is true. And have these experiments caused Lyme disease and other tick-borne disease to mutate and to spread?” Smith said on the House floor Thursda


For those not familiar, this condition is a bitch to deal with /understand

So much so, that people have been accused of faking symptoms

The evasiveness may be due to the fact that it is a bioweapon

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https://news.yahoo.com/did-pentagon-ticks-biological-warfare-195700257.html

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So...Did the Pentagon Use Ticks for Biological Warfare? Kyle Mizokami Kyle Mizokami
Popular Mechanics
July 17, 2019, 2:57 PM CDT


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The call for information comes after the publication of the book Bitten: The Secret History of Lyme Disease and Biological Weapons. A major allegation in the book is that Willy Burgdorfer, the discoverer of the bacterium that causes Lyme Disease, claimed that the disease was the result of a biological weapons program that went awry. Burgdorfer himself was involved in biological warfare programs that involved using blood-sucking insects, including fleas, ticks, and mosquitoes, as vectors for the transmission of human diseases.


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According to the book, there were plans to drop weaponized bugs from the air to incapacitate enemies. This is similar to attempts by Imperial Japan to weaponize insects, typically fleas infected with plague and cholera, where they were used against the civilian population in China. The Japanese military organization responsible for the research, Unit 731, was later rounded up by the U.S. military after the war. Despite committing serious, egregious crimes against humanity, including vivisection, members of the unit were only lightly punished by the Allies, reportedly in exchange for research data.


Sounds like Operation Paperclip rationale...
Hail Hydra

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Lyme Disease affects approximately 30,000 people a year, primarily in the northeastern United States. The book alleges biowarfare research involving ticks took place at Fort Detrick, Maryland, and Plum Island, New York—both areas where CDC maps note the disease is very prevalent, but the CDC itself does not have an opinion on the allegation.


Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:07 pm to
That tinfoil hat!
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:12 pm to
What's interesting here are the implications for genetic research. So are we to believe the US military has been advanced enough in their genetics capabilities that they were changing the genetic code of insects all the way back in the 1950's? That's wild.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:17 pm to
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Pentagon tried to weaponize ticks



I have proof.


Posted by PhilemonThomas
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:26 pm to
You don't need cutting edge tech to genetically modify an organism. Selective breeding. It's easier to do with organisms that have quick reproductive cycles and/or short lifespans. Humans have been doing this forever. It's how we domesticated animals and became farmers.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:33 pm to
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You don't need cutting edge tech to genetically modify an organism. Selective breeding.


And how exactly would you go about weaponizing ticks through selective breeding?

Are you going to have a bunch of ticks bite people and monitor for results and then have the ticks mate accordingly?

What's the lifespan of a tick? Do they live long enough for such a program?
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 1:35 pm
Posted by PhilemonThomas
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:43 pm to
frick if I know how exactly they do it. They somehow made the ticks hosts of an other organism (the bacteria that causes lyme disease). If ticks can live long enough to bite people and reproduce in the wild then they can live long enough to be selectively bred.

This is a wild guess at how you could do it. You expose a bunch of ticks to lyme disease bacteria in a lab. See if those ticks can survive and pass the lyme disease bacteria on to a mammal (hopefully they never tested humans but who knows). Breed the ticks that successfully passed lyme disease bacteria to other mammals and maybe had offspring that carried the bacteria. Boom. You've got lyme disease carrying ticks. That's all theoretical. My point is they didn't necessarily have to utilize modern genetic modification tech to do it.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:48 pm to

And the guy that discovered the bacteria that causes lymes disease says they were weaponized.

I guess that does make sense. You'd really just need to isolate the disease itself and then you could just keep feeding it to the ticks until they passed it on. Crazy.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 1:51 pm
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:19 am to
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/26/coronavirus-link-china-biowarfare-program-possible/

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Coronavirus may have originated in lab linked to China's biowarfare program
By Bill Gertz - The Washington Times - Sunday, January 26, 2020


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The deadly animal-borne coronavirus spreading globally may have originated in a laboratory in the city of Wuhan linked to China’s covert biological weapons program, said an Israeli biological warfare analyst.

Radio Free Asia last week rebroadcast a Wuhan television report from 2015 showing China’s most advanced virus research laboratory, known the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The laboratory is the only declared site in China capable of working with deadly viruses.


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Work on biological weapons is conducted as part of dual civilian-military research and is “definitely covert,” he said in an email. Mr. Shoham holds a doctorate in medical microbiology. From 1970 to 1991, he was a senior analyst with Israeli military intelligence for biological and chemical warfare in the Middle East and worldwide. He held the rank of lieutenant colonel. China has denied having any offensive biological weapons, but a State Department report last year revealed suspicions of covert biological warfare work.


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One ominous sign, said a U.S. official, is that false rumors circulating on the Chinese internet claim the virus is part of a U.S. conspiracy to spread germ weapons. That could indicate China is preparing propaganda outlets to counter any charges that the new coronavirus escaped from one of Wuhan’s civilian or defense research laboratories.


Projection...
A common play in the grand game...
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:19 am to
https://www.nature.com/news/inside-the-chinese-lab-poised-to-study-world-s-most-dangerous-pathogens-1.21487?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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Inside the Chinese lab poised to study world's most dangerous pathogens

Maximum-security biolab is part of plan to build network of BSL-4 facilities across China.

David Cyranoski 22 February 2017 Updated: 23 February 2017 WUHAN, CHINA


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A laboratory in Wuhan is on the cusp of being cleared to work with the world’s most dangerous pathogens. The move is part of a plan to build between five and seven biosafety level-4 (BSL-4) labs across the Chinese mainland by 2025, and has generated much excitement, as well as some concerns. Related stories Ebola spurs creation of Japan's first maximum-security biolab European biosafety labs set to grow Booming biosafety labs probed More related stories Some scientists outside China worry about pathogens escaping, and the addition of a biological dimension to geopolitical tensions between China and other nations. But Chinese microbiologists are celebrating their entrance to the elite cadre


Again, the good folks of this board count on the Chinese government or our government to plain speak this for us...

Think for yourself...
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:06 am to
I expect the Federal Govt of the USA to lie, cheat, steal and murder, and to reward those who likewise do so for the benefit of the US FedGov.
Posted by Walkthedawg
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:18 am to
Posted by zatetic
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:34 am to
there is of course a ton on pol about this if you are looking for more. lyme disease stuff was mentioned quite a lot too.
Posted by Paluka
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:38 am to
1. Lyme disease sucks. I know a kid who was a star athlete in high school. He got Lyme's disease and is unable to play sports anymore.

2. With the CRISPR, the possibility of doing some great good and some really bad stuff exists in spades. There was a NETFLIX documentary of guys using CRISPR in the New England area to make mice resistant to Lyme disease-carrying ticks. It worked very well but if you unleash this in the environment what will happen?

Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:13 am to
Is there a single person on this Board that don't believe that military, Bio-weaponry is not pushed to the max by China, Russia, USA and any other Nation or Group that desires possessing that kind of power? Or that any concern for such a weaponry getting loosed, would negate the efforts to develop such?

Bottom line. It is highly likely that they all have God only knows what kind of pernicious and lethal Bio WMDs...and it is further likely that such will be employed, or mistakenly loosed, as relevant Parties deem such to their (martyrdom-based?) advantage. Just a matter of time. Fermi Pardox.

IMO, get Jesus, and stake out a claim in one of those "many mansions"...I.e., 'parallel universes'. But by the mercy of God...this one is going down; but for those who chose love. It would be unjust and unthinkable for God not to let the Evil, determine the fate of the Good. We are covered.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 11:03 am to
Will leave this here...
What about Deep State attack...

https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-revolutionary-guard-coronavirus-us-biological-attack

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Iranian Revolutionary Guard commander says coronavirus may have been caused by US biological attack Tyler Olson

By Tyler Olson | Fox News


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The commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said the coronavirus might be the result of a biological attack from the United States, according to a local news agency. Maj. Gen. Hossein Salami, who has previously vowed to "cleanse the planet from the filth" of Israel and the U.S., according to The Jerusalem Post, made the comments in the same engagement in which he praised Qassem Suleimani, who ran the IRGC's elite Quds Force until he was killed in January by an American drone strike while in Iraq. The Iranian Student's News Agency reported Salami said that the virus may be the product of an "American biological invasion," according to a rough translation of the comments through Google translate. The news outlet also included Salami's comments in a tweet posted early Thursday morning, U.S. time
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 11:11 am to
Bumped...
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:09 pm to
James Woods tweeted this article:

https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-sars-virus-and-flu-found-in-luggage-fbi-report-describes-chinas-biosecurity-risk-144526820.html

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Suspected SARS virus and flu samples found in luggage: FBI report describes China's 'biosecurity risk'

Sharon Weinberger, Jana Winter and Martin De Bourmont Sharon Weinberger, Jana Winter and Martin De Bourmont
Yahoo NewsMarch 30, 2020, 9:45 AM CDT


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WASHINGTON — In late November 2018, just over a year before the first coronavirus case was identified in Wuhan, China, U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents at Detroit Metro Airport stopped a Chinese biologist with three vials labeled “Antibodies” in his luggage. The biologist told the agents that a colleague in China had asked him to deliver the vials to a researcher at a U.S. institute. After examining the vials, however, customs agents came to an alarming conclusion. “Inspection of the writing on the vials and the stated recipient led inspection personnel to believe the materials contained within the vials may be viable Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) materials,” says an unclassified FBI tactical intelligence report obtained by Yahoo News.






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Scientists have been adamant that the virus is not a weapon, either from the United States or China. “There’s no basis to suspect it’s a laboratory construct,” says Richard Ebright, a professor of chemical biology at Rutgers University. “It has none of the expected signatures that would be present for deliberate construction.” However, Ebright doesn’t exclude the possibility that the virus’s spread started from poor biosecurity in China. A leading theory is that the virus jumped from wildlife to humans. Some researchers speculate this happened at a live-animal market where exotic species are sold for food. But Ebright also notes that such wildlife viruses are collected in laboratories, including in Wuhan. “Therefore, it’s also a possibility that this virus entered the human population through accidental infection of a lab worker carrying out field collection, or an accident by a lab worker characterizing the sample in a laboratory,” he said.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 6:55 pm to
Bumpty bump bump from downtown

May have been accidental
May have been malicious
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