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re: Protestors and the Silent Majority - we have been doing this wrong, look at the numbers

Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:55 am to
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:55 am to
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Hmmm


yeah, dumb shite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:56 am to
oh i agree. i thought the Trump-Russia and Flynn-FBI situations would give great examples to lead to a change

but

nope
Posted by Sidicous
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:56 am to
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I posted this earlier, but here it is again.

quote:
1)End govt unions (including police)
2)End civil asset forfeiture
3)End no knock raids
4)End the war on drugs
5)End qualified immunity


Those are all good.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:56 am to
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Why are you blaming those responding to a purposefully divisive concept, rather than those who are pushing the originally divisive stance?


Because the first group is one that can be reasoned with. By definition, the second group wants the exact result they are seeking so they have no incentive to change.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:57 am to
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Why are you blaming those responding to a purposefully divisive concept, rather than those who are pushing the originally divisive stance?


Because not everyone in the movement sees it as divisive and the response is beyond idiotic. It’s dismissive (without merit) of the actual compliant being made

Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:59 am to
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Posted by Apollyon
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:59 am to
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the response is beyond idiotic


Ah, but why?
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:00 am to
So, you think the racist and hypocritical saying has more merit than the all inclusive one? What a world.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:00 am to
I added 6) End policing for profit. All fines and assets seized go to state fund.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:01 am to
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So, you think the racist and hypocritical saying has more merit than the all inclusive one? What a world.


i think merit may be a bad word

use is probably a better one
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:01 am to
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Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:02 am to
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There is no silent majority. He didn't even get the majority of the votes.


You better wake up. Seems even tech workers are getting tired of the shite. Note the author uses the word “racism” very lightly.

quote:

On Wednesday, LinkedIn hosted a town hall about racial justice in the wake of the police killing of George Floyd. The forum was supposed to be an opportunity for employees to come together and discuss how they could support one another. Instead, the conversation turned suddenly hostile, as people used the video chat’s anonymous commenting feature to defend racist sentiments and question the efficacy of the protests.


LINK
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:03 am to
De-unionizing public employees would be a good start.
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:03 am to
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So you’re saying because the numbers are a small percent of the population, their opinion doesn’t matter? In other words, the opinion of minorities don’t matter?



Just saw this little gem. Are you building up to calling me a racist for not supporting BLM? Because that is where I think this is going.
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:03 am to
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the purpose is not to be divisive,


The BLM purpose is very clearly to be divisive.

And the BLM movement believes that there are lives that do not matter.

Clearly.

Just make them say it and watch the mental gymnastics unfold
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:03 am to
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I'm not protesting but we do need major police reform

Why and what does that look like?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:05 am to
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And the BLM movement believes that there are lives that do not matter.

Clearly.


Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:05 am to
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Ah, but why?


Because it dismissed the complaint immediately without merit.

The complaint is that black Americans are subject to unequal police treatment and that their lives should matter.

When you just yell “well, all lives should matter” you are completely dismissing the complaint without even analyzing it.

If we started a movement to address the obesity problem in America and thousands of people start yelling that people die from all kinds of causes, they would be dismissing our point without even analyzing it.

And, I have no problem with people objecting to parts of the movement on actual data. I’ve done that regularly - there is no evidentiary support that blacks are killed by police due to race in the US. But that is confronting an allegation with a reasoned argument and not just dismissing it outright with a reactionary, emotional, thoughtless response.

Posted by Sidicous
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:05 am to
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I added 6) End policing for profit. All fines and assets seized go to state fund.
Eh, states are not known for their wisdom and financial thrift.

Something like local libraries or public works like utilties, local public healthcare or food programs might be a better idea. Citizens are more likely to tolerate fines, fees, and the such if they can directly see the benefit in their own community.

I'd hate to know my speeding fine was going to fund some "artist" in the far end of the state painting Jesus blowing 3 dudes. Or even worse, my fines were propping up abortion clinics.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:06 am to
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