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re: Protestors and the Silent Majority - we have been doing this wrong, look at the numbers

Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:32 am to
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:32 am to
I'm an independent, probably not voting this year due to two terrible choices if that answers your questions. I just want someone capable of forward thinking and solving the problems that have been stacking up in the country for the last several decades.

Really don't care if they have a D or an R next to their name if they are honest, have genuine intentions to help and are forward thinking. Unfortunately that probably disqualifies 95% of our public officials.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:33 am to
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Lenin and his Bolsheviks overthrew Czarist Russia with just 3% of the population.


Meh.

The Bolsheviks were only 3% of the population but the vast majority of the Russian population abhorred the Czar leading into the 1917 revolution. The Czar was getting overthrown, the question was who would fill the void in power.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:34 am to
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yeah there was a thread a few days ago with the Bama NAACP demands and it was mostly reasonable

this reminds me of a few weeks ago when MAGA folks were all upset at the FBI illegally targeting Flynn and i made this very point (about how they need to accept this as a macro issue). i was, apparently, not persuasive



Ya we can start with that list - there was only one on the list I took issue with.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:36 am to
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Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:36 am to
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If people would stop fanning the flames of racial division and it viewed the movement as a purely citizens vs police brutality situation, we would likely have already seen some reform.



Agreed but it’s both sides.

The GOP could make great strides in rolling out a major police reform proposals across the country. Trump started some of this with his criminal justice reform.

But a lot of GOP voters would rather yell stupid shite like “All Lives Matter” instead of critical analyze some of these issues.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:39 am to
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Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:41 am to
Have you ever gone to a doctor who was being a dick and thought they were untouchable? These people exist in every segment of our society.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:41 am to
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I'm not protesting but we do need major police reform


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Maybe some communities just need major culture reform


While this might be true, you can't really say that then also use the fact that more white people are killed by cops each year than black people.

Fact is there needs to be police reform, but this is not a race issue. And the fact that these protests only happen after a black person is killed shows that this is purely political garbage.
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 11:14 am
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:43 am to
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Meanwhile 97% of our society is going to work, feeding our kids and being held hostage to these peoples shouted demands as they throw temper tantrums and burn our businesses?


Nah. Number is no where near that high.

You gotta factor in the over privileged white women who are protesting via Instagram stories and the sissy white guys who are protesting behind their keyboards.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:44 am to
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There is a large portion of the population eating government cheese, and they’re not who you may think


Trash has no color
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:44 am to
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I mean that is a response to the racial division element.


And it’s stupid because it’s completely tone deaf. And it alienates people you are supposedly trying to make inroads with.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:44 am to
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We are wasting so much money and seeing no kind of positive results.
Sounds exactly like govt. at all levels, working as intended (none of it ever actually works).


When govt. just ain't getting it done, we need more govt.!

What we need are more laws to regulate the laws we are already overburdened with!

Needs more money thrown at it too, that solves everything!

Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:44 am to
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Fact is there needs to be police reform, but this is not a race issue. And the fact that these protests only happen after a black person is killed shows that this is purely political garbage.


I certainly believe that the way weed charges are dealt out is a race issue. If someone has confirmed stats to disprove that I'd be all ears but it doesn't seem that way.

Start with legalizing pot and pardoning people in prison for low level, non-violent pot charges.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:45 am to
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But a lot of GOP voters would rather yell stupid shite like “All Lives Matter” instead of critical analyze some of these issues.


Such a dumb statement.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:45 am to
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I mean that is a response to the racial division element.

Why not make that the core of the movement anyway?

If you remove the racial aspects, that more than likely wouldn’t occur.

Instead, you have people believing, not completely unjustified, that they are being demonized for the color of their skin.

How would you expect people to react to that?

the reasoning for all of this is simple: the architects of these concepts and the word soup don't give a frick about racism

this is just about creating conflict and division b/c the narrative is being created/spread by Marxists disguised as academics/intellectuals
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:45 am to
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Needs more money thrown at it too, that solves everything!



OR you could reduce the money spent on war on drugs type shite, put some of that towards police reform.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:46 am to
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:46 am to
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And it alienates people you are supposedly trying to make inroads with.


that's the actual point
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49032 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:47 am to
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There is a large portion of the population eating government cheese, and they’re not who you may think.


And it’s only going to get worse in coming years as our economy changes due to technology.

A lot of conservatives are really going to have to come to terms with the fact that “if you just work hard in America, you can make it” will no longer be viable.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:47 am to
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