re: Protestant-Only Religious Service at Pentagon

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Working on a theory for a post about how American Evangelicals have done more damage to the US in the last 40 years than the Leftist can ever have dreamed of doing.

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You're free to waste your time on any made up drivel you want. Just know that you're starting from a retarded premise.

Did you choose 40 years as the cutoff so you don't have to talk about the welfare state or feminism created by the left?

I’m conflicted. On the one hand, I think it is good to minimize a false church that has anathematized the gospel of justification by faith alone (a key doctrine of Christianity/Protestantism), but on the other hand, I’m not a fan of holy days, since the only biblically-commanded “holy day” is the Lord’s Day, which we are to honor each week.

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On the one hand, I think it is good to minimize a false church that has anathematized the gospel of justification by faith alone (a key doctrine of Christianity/Protestantism)

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Paula White, a "preacher" with a net worth of between $5-8m.

Wonder if my sola scriptura baws remember this little line:

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“It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.”

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Matthew 19:24.

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Yep, it’s difficult because those with large sums of money typically rely on their possessions to be their god, rather than trusting in the one true and living God for their daily bread, and salvation through Jesus Christ alone.

Jesus’ statement wasn’t intended to mean that only poor people are saved, though, or that the rich are all damned.

I’m more concerned with her teaching than how much money she has. She teaches a prosperity gospel that robs people of their money while teaching a false view of God’s blessings. She also denies sola scriptura with her claims of direct revelation. It seem she has also made some questionable statements about the nature of the Trinity.

She is certainly not someone that should be representing biblical Christianity.

Read the early Church fathers. They all disagree with you.

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Read the early Church fathers. They all disagree with you.

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Only the Bible is “God-breathed”. The Church fathers disagreed with each other. There was no singular body of unified thought on everything among them.

1: prove your claim.

2: where did the Bible come from? Where did the index come from? How did we know which books were supposed to be in in which books weren’t? Through which medium?

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1: prove your claim.

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Which part? That only the Bible is God-breathed?

Here's the argument:

P1. Only that which is “God-breathed” carries the authority of God Himself.
(2 Timothy 3:16)

P2. Scripture alone is identified as “God-breathed” and is uniquely described as the written, preserved Word of God.
(2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:21)

P3. Scripture is sufficient to equip the man of God “for every good work,” meaning no additional infallible authority is necessary.
(2 Timothy 3:17)

P4. Jesus and the apostles consistently treated Scripture as the final, binding authority, even over human traditions.
(Mark 7:6–13)

C. Therefore, Scripture alone is the only infallible, God-breathed rule of faith and practice for the church.



Or are you referring to my claim that the early church father's were not in total agreement about everything? If so, here is just one example:


There was an early disagreement over the date of Easter called the Quartodeciman controversy.

Polycarp and the churches in Asia Minor celebrated Easter on Nisan 14 (the same day as the Jewish Passover), and it didn't matter what day of the week that fell. Anicetus and the Roman church, on the other hand, celebrated Easter on the following Sunday, bringing an emphasis to the resurrection of Jesus.

Polycarp claimed to follow the tradition handed down from John, while Rome claimed its Sunday observance was also handed down from the Apostles, Paul and Peter in particular.

Victor I tried to excommunicate the churches who celebrated during the Jewish Passover, but he was rebuked by Irenaeus, who urged peace and pointed out that earlier leaders had tolerated the difference in dates.

This is just one example, but even the early church fathers disagreed on matters, and even appealed to apostolic tradition in their conflicting beliefs, which goes to show that they were not infallible.

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2: where did the Bible come from? Where did the index come from? How did we know which books were supposed to be in in which books weren’t? Through which medium?

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The Bible was written by men who were carried along by the Holy Spirit, as Peter wrote. God "wrote" the Bible through men, and He preserved it to be given to His Church.

The index was a recognition of the books that God wrote and gave to His Church by the Church. The index is not infallible, but recognizes that which God gave the Church.

Which books are in vs. which are out are based on several different factors, including the internal witness of the books themselves, as well as the testimony of the Holy Spirit. The Church received that which God provided.

The medium by which the Scriptures were preserved was the Church. Just as God used human authors to write His Word through His Spirit-led inspiration, so, too, did God preserve and transmit the Scriptures by human mediums. That does not mean the human mediums were infallible any more than John the Baptist was infallible by recognizing Christ as the lamb of God.

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They think they know what Catholics believe.

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When it comes down to it Catholics believe whatever the pope tells them to