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re: Pro-lifer struck with cane, shoved by pro-choice demonstrators

Posted on 5/28/19 at 8:49 am to
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 8:49 am to
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So... You're saying that Missippi has no go zones?



It's better. 10-15years ago Emergency crews wouldn't go west of the capitol without police escort.
Jackson PD was better known for escorting drug runners through town on I-20
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49393 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:07 am to
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That's one, subjective opinion.


Not really. A 8-9 week old fetus meets basically every prerequisite for any definition of “life.” It’s just biology. Leftist’s aren’t comfortable with the result so they molest the accepted definition to avoid guilt. This isn’t the only issue where this happens.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 9:08 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:13 am to
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Not really.


Yes, really.

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A 8-9 week old fetus meets basically every prerequisite for any definition of “life.” It’s just biology.


Sure, but that isn't what you said. What you did say, is subjective.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26423 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:16 am to
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Stop using the term pro-choice. It’s pro-abortion.



Pro Life vs Pro Death
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49393 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:16 am to
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Sure, but that isn't what you said. What you did say, is subjective.


Nope. You’re just intellectually compromised on this issue.

8-9 fetus is alive according to biology.

Ending life is known as killing.

Abortion ends fetal life.

Therefore, abortion after 8-9 week threshold is the killing a human being.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26673 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:19 am to
The pro abortion zealots are going to attack the wrong one, someone that chooses to exercise their Second Amendment rights in a stand your ground state, and it is going to be too damn bad when that happens.

There was a Toyota commercial years ago that comes to mind.

" You asked for it, you got it! Toyota." Except in this case you asked to get a canoe blown in your heads.

Now before you pro murder people scream contradiction, there is a huge difference between murdering innocent babies, and keeping yourself from getting your head kicked in.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 9:23 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:19 am to
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Therefore, abortion after 8-9 week threshold is the killing a human being.


This is still subjective. You jump from "fetal life" to "human being" because of emotion. You inject morality because it's the only bridge you have when "science" runs out. Morality is subjective. Your statement in totality is subjective.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49393 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:23 am to
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You jump from "fetal life" to "human being" because of emotion.


Are you under the impression that a fetus will potentially become something other than a human being?

And even then the term “fetus” is simply medical labeling and not some type of biological statement on transspeciation.

Let me know when women start birthing badgers or piñatas instead of children.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 9:25 am
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:24 am to
Who said you get to decide? You don't. One thing we do know for certain. Each and every time said whatever it is goes to term , it IS a human being.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 9:24 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:26 am to
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Are you under the impression that a fetus will potentially become something other than a human being?


This is always a silly point. Making it now won't help you, unless you're an absolutist, and that changes the entire discussion. I don't think you're that uninformed.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26673 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:26 am to
They don't like answering the question about hurting a pregnant woman and causing her to lose the child, and the perp getting charged with manslaughter.

That's in the majority of states. Now just HOW can that be? I bet she won't run around yelling out of concern, " Muh Fetus Muh Fetus!"
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:26 am to
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Who said you get to decide?


No one that I know of. Certainly not me.

That's kind of the point of subjectivity.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:27 am to
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They don't like answering the question about hurting a pregnant woman and causing her to lose the child, and the perp getting charged with manslaughter.


I've answered that question many times, actually.

Explain why you think it's a relevant one.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26673 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:29 am to
I think it's self explanatory. You could make a successful argument that the State recognizes that unborn person as a person.

Otherwise you cannot make a manslaughter charge, now can you?
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 9:31 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49393 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:30 am to
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This is always a silly point. Making it now won't help you, unless you're an absolutist, and that changes the entire discussion. I don't think you're that uninformed.


This is a textbook example of avoiding answering a question.



1. Make vague, false characterization of request.

2. Levy false accusation against questioner.

3. Allude to questioners lack of knowledge.

4. Never address subject material.



You’d be a great journalist.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:30 am to
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Stop using the term pro-choice. It’s pro-abortion.




Pro-infanticide
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49507 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:31 am to
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Stop using the term pro-choice. It’s pro-abortion.


/\ THIS /\

We need to stop using the DEMOCRAT euphemisms to disguise the evil they promulgate

Call them ANTI-LIFE or PRO-ABORTION

and we need to stop using phrases like UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTs - They are ILLEGAL ALIENs - That is the term that is contained in statutes on the subject.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:31 am to
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You could make a successful argument that the State recognizes that unborn person as a person.



And? At that point, you're talking about the legal definition, not the moral definition. If that's how you want to argue the point, problem solved. What actually happens, is that you want to argue the point in that manner, but only when it's convenient to your position.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:33 am to
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This is a textbook example of avoiding answering a question.


Nope. I'm just ignoring your attempts to shift your position to avoid admitting that I was correct.

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However, when it comes to morality, past about 8-9 weeks, it is absolutely the killing of a human being.


That is subjective. To avoid admitting that, you decided to reform your point. I'm fine with that, but it's weird to act like you didn't do it.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 9:34 am
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26673 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:35 am to
If the State recognizes that as a Person, then Abortion is manslaughter at the very least and probably even premeditated First Degree Murder.

No more, no less. Period. Legally AND morally. You are murdering someone and it is dead wrong.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 9:36 am
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