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re: Prior to Roe v Wade being overturned I had no idea that abortions were that common.

Posted on 11/19/23 at 10:53 am to
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 11/19/23 at 10:53 am to
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This whole thread is a great illustration of the problem. Large amount of people with opinions on other people's lives trying to force their morals and rules on others....
Purported "conservatives" are quick to demand limited government, until it is THEIR treasured issues that need governmental interference in people's lives.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293746 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 11:09 am to
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are quick to demand limited government,
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Im not wanting it banned, I want its participants shamed.

Vapid whores dont really deserve respect.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58574 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 11:11 am to
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Not if the baby is "her body and her choice", and he has no say in the matter. You cant have it both ways.


Everyone who has consensual sex does it with the knowledge of what the repercussions could be.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26788 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 11:13 am to
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Purported "conservatives" are quick to demand limited government, until it is THEIR treasured issues that need governmental interference in people's lives.


His post didn’t speak well of his intellectual curiosity, nor does yours.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10232 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 11:47 am to
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I don’t think 1/4 of women have had them though.


Yeah, there's a difference in one out of four women having had one and certain women who have had 10 driving the average up.

On the other hand, don't we average something like a million deaths a year? There are supposedly 65 million women of childbearing age in America at any given time and what is considered a "childbearing" window for women is about a 30 year window.

I'm not good enough with numbers to crunch all of those numbers to figure out whether an average of 1 in 4 makes sense, but a million deaths a year is a pretty big result.

Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10232 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 11:48 am to
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Purported "conservatives" are quick to demand limited government, until it is THEIR treasured issues that need governmental interference in people's lives.


Yeah, those pet issues like not killing other human beings.

Who do they think they are trying to force THAT morality on everyone else?
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 11:50 am to
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I remember some of the abortion stats from 80's-90's included miscarriages.


Who's gonna tell him?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43795 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 12:05 pm to
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Come to find out that the consensus estimate is that 25 percent of adult women have had an abortion.



1. Do you have a link to your claim.

2. LINK

The highest number of abortions per year was in 1.6 million in 1990 and < 1,000,000 abortions in 2020. Your claim appears to be mathematically incorrect.

3. The only way for your claim to make sense would be for you or your sources to be including both spontaneous abortions and elective abortions, or if you are including emergency contraception (aka Plan B) in the calculations. Are you including spontaneous abortions in your claim? If you are including them, you do realize that spontaneous abortion is the medical term for a miscarriage and is not at all the same thing as an elective abortion.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24073 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 12:36 pm to
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Purported "conservatives" are quick to demand limited government, until it is THEIR treasured issues that need governmental interference in people's lives.


Nah, abolishing murder is consistent with conservatism and classical liberal philosophy.

Nice retarded democrat talking point though.
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 12:43 pm to
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abolishing murder is consistent with conservatism and classical liberal philosophy.
Yes, Dog, and the belief that early-term abortion constitutes "murder" is a minority view ... but a treasured view to you people.

You MUST understand that your viewpoint is an extreme minority one. MOST of you even admit it. Yet you nonetheless want to foist it upon others.

Imposing a minority viewpoint upon a disagreeing minority is NOT "limited government." It is authoritarianism.

Yes, I understand that you DEEPLY believe your viewpoint to be the "correct" one. Most authoritarians DO.
This post was edited on 11/19/23 at 12:48 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10232 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 12:59 pm to
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Imposing a minority viewpoint upon a disagreeing majority is NOT "limited government." It is authoritarianism.


Now that's bullshite on its face, Hank.

Slavery was a majority opinion at one time. Abolishing it was authoritarianism? (Not just abolishing it, btw, but going to war to use the force of a gun to compel others to accept it.)

What very obvious bullshite.
This post was edited on 11/19/23 at 1:01 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62249 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 1:00 pm to
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early-term abortion constitutes "murder" is a minority view


Doesn't matter. It's the truth.
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 1:16 pm to
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abolishing murder is consistent with conservatism and classical liberal philosophy.

Yes, Dog, and the belief that early-term abortion constitutes "murder" is a minority view ... I understand that you DEEPLY believe your viewpoint to be the "correct" one. Most authoritarians DO.
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Doesn't matter. It's the truth.

Thank you for confirming the point. Zealotry leads to authoritarianism.
This post was edited on 11/19/23 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24073 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 1:31 pm to
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Yes, Dog, and the belief that early-term abortion constitutes "murder" is a minority view ... but a treasured view to you people. You MUST understand that your viewpoint is an extreme minority one. MOST of you even admit it. Yet you nonetheless want to foist it upon others. Imposing a minority viewpoint upon a disagreeing minority is NOT "limited government." It is authoritarianism. Yes, I understand that you DEEPLY believe your viewpoint to be the "correct" one. Most authoritarians DO.


There's so much retarded here it would take me more time than I'd like to reward you to unpack.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 1:35 pm to
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Zealotry leads to authoritarianism.


Speaking of "zealotry", you seem to have an OBSESSION for posts where children are either murdered, groomed or the victims of Pedophilia and you ALWAYS seem to take the wrong side.

Doesn't matter if you're using your "deadname" of AggieHank or your new alter Antoninus, you LIVE to seek out, derail, and defend people who have nefarious intent toward children...anything you care to confess to the crowd?
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
6760 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 1:38 pm to
I know of 7 from when I was in high school who had them. All of their parents were “Catholics” and to this day according to their FB 5 of the 7 claim to be pro life.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 2:02 pm to
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Purported "conservatives" are quick to demand limited government,


Purported "Libertarians" don't lick the taint of every Leftist Politician and position posted on this boar.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 2:03 pm to
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Yes, Dog, and the belief that early-term abortion constitutes "murder" is a minority view


So now Contrarian Hank thinks taking the minority view is a bad thing?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26788 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 2:48 pm to
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Now that's bullshite on its face, Hank.


Of course it is. I hold the extreme minority viewpoint that we need to get rid of protected classes and anti-discrimination laws for private business. That policy would be quite the opposite of authoritarianism; it would restore our freedom of association.

Hank loves to pretend that analog issue are digital, typically with one of his "You either believe in XXX or you do not" lines.
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 2:55 pm to
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I hold the extreme minority viewpoint that we need to get rid of protected classes and anti-discrimination laws for private business. That policy would be quite the opposite of authoritarianism; it would restore our freedom of association.
I hold the same view, and I agree that we are likely in the minority.

Holding that view is not "authoritarian." If a minority finds a way to foist its minority view upon the majority, THAT is "authoritarian." INCLUDING you and I imposing our minority views regarding "protected class" upon a disagreeing majority.
This post was edited on 11/19/23 at 2:56 pm
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