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re: Prior to Roe v Wade being overturned I had no idea that abortions were that common.

Posted on 11/18/23 at 5:15 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58893 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 5:15 pm to
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Not remotely how they reached their numbers.


In reality, it's the only way they can reach their numbers. They don't have access to people's medical records to determine each unique individual who has had an abortion. All they can know is number of women in the country and number of abortions. They cannot and will not be able to know the number of women who have personally had an abortion.
This post was edited on 11/18/23 at 5:16 pm
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 5:19 pm to
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Technically, the response is correct. "25%" is rounded, and the figure is something like 23.4%, and it is "will have had an abortion by age 45," not "all adult women."


Stop posting bullshite numbers.

I exposed this particular lie you posted a couple of weeks ago.

AggiHanktonius is basing these numbers on a bullshite study done by an arm of Planned Parenthood.

Stop posting lies.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 5:20 pm to
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I should have known better than trying.


Yes, you should have.

Take your lying alter azz and leave, Hank.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58893 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 5:21 pm to
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AggiHanktonius is basing these numbers on a bullshite study done by an arm of Planned Parenthood.


And the claim is absurd on its face. They cannot possibly know the number of women who have actually had an abortion.

Just look at all the hags who brag about having 5-6-7 abortions. They cannot control for those individuals.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 5:33 pm to
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They cannot possibly know the number of women who have actually had an abortion.


Yet people like Agtoniuous CONTINUE to post numbers from a biased, under-sampled "poll" conducted by an arm of Planned Parenthood.
Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
2540 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 7:46 pm to
I have a male immediate family member who was involved in one. We discussed it once, a few years later. He laid out why he thought it was morally acceptable. I was supportive but non-committal on the ethics of it.

Over time, this person has isolated himself from anyone who wouldn't enthusiastically endorse the ethical case he tried to make to me. There's not a single other person in my family that I'd call anything other than a socially conservative Christian, so we just don't see him anymore. He spends his time, even his holidays, with his drinking buddies.

I hear things that make me think he couches his alienation from us in politics. We're just a bunch of Trump-loving extremists, and he's a vociferous leftist, to an extent that you'd struggle to explain if you didn't know the psychology of it.

The rest of us never talk about politics when we get together, though. I had little idea what my dad thought about Trump until we randomly discussed it last year. We certainly do not discuss abortion or anything unpleasant from our distant past.
This post was edited on 11/18/23 at 9:19 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
54730 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 8:03 pm to
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"Abortions are horrible".


“Abolish food stamps and welfare. People shouldn’t have kids unless they can take care of them.”

Posted by djmed
Member since Aug 2020
3233 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 8:07 pm to
Kinda like 10% are gay
Or 30%+ claiming to be lbtgqrstjamonya
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55606 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 8:11 pm to
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What about rape?


What about it?

How many abortions are performed as a result of a rape?

Are you of the mind of murdering the rape victim?

It’s not the mothers fault she was raped and it’s horrible she’s in that position, but it’s also not the baby’s fault either. So why murder innocents?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55606 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 8:13 pm to
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4cubbies


You’re equating child murder to food stamps?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
54730 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 8:29 pm to
Not at all. How on earth did you draw that conclusion?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58893 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 9:12 pm to
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"Abortions are horrible".


True.

quote:

“Abolish food stamps and welfare. People shouldn’t have kids unless they can take care of them.”


True.
Posted by made4lsu
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2009
6017 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 9:14 pm to
No fricking way it’s 25%.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25469 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 11:04 pm to
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So you are an anarchist?


On the bright side, people who use the “you just want to force your morality” line are letting you know up front that they’re extremely shallow thinkers, so you don’t have to waste any further time figuring that out.
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2251 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 11:13 pm to
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would you?

if all life matters, no matter what, how do YOU justify being ok with some abortions but not others? pick a lane and stick to it... don't half arse your viewpoint... b/c correct me if i'm wrong but even in rape and incest, a woman still has the CHOICE in your hypothetical, correct?


Personally I would ban it all together. But those in my position don't hide behind extremely rare cases to justify our position. You refuse to answer the actual question because your answer is "of course not", you want women to have the option to kill children no matter the circumstance.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
25748 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 11:28 pm to
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She made the choice when she let him spray them guts.

did he not make a choice and choose not to wear a condom, or to not cum inside her? is there NO responsibility on the guy's part?

there is equal responsibility for safe sex... once it gets past that, and she has now become pregnant, it's HER choice as far as what happens to her body... it's pretty simple really...
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19310 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 11:39 pm to
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it's pretty simple really...
It is very simple really.

If she has an abortion, she kills her child. Why you pro abortion advocates can’t admit that is telling. The twists and contortions you’ll go to in order to avoid saying it shows you understand what the truth is, you just don’t put any value on a child’s life.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25469 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 11:43 pm to
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once it gets past that, and she has now become pregnant, it's HER choice as far as what happens to her body... it's pretty simple really...


Then it should be HIS choice as far as what happens to his wallet… it’s pretty simple really…

Right? You ok with private property rights?
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
1644 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 1:09 am to
I knew one woman who claimed to have had four abortions. All those years later she still believed the decisions were right for her.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283307 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 2:52 am to
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did he not make a choice and choose not to wear a condom,


Did she tell him she was on the pill?

Doesnt matter. Its her body, her choice. She is both the gatekeeper and responsible party.

If a man has no say in an abortion, he has no responsibility for the child.
This post was edited on 11/19/23 at 3:16 am
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