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re: President Trump Shutdown Speech IN-GAME THREAD
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:43 pm to redneck hippie
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:43 pm to redneck hippie
Rape comment? I missed the speech, was it in reference to women and girls being sexually assaulted on their journey from Central America to the border? If so, the sexual abuse stats are from amnesty international. LINK
As for drugs, lots of them do come across at ports of entry. And lots of them come in between the ports.
This chart shows the seizures at ports and seizures at BP checkpoints (on highways within 100 miles of the border) LINK
It doesn't show the entry point for the seizures at the BP checkpoints. Obviously some of them likely entered at a port undetected, but it is reasonable to assume some of them entered the US by being smuggled across the border between ports.
I'll see if I can find statistics on seizures in the field (aka smuggled across the border not at a port).
As for drugs, lots of them do come across at ports of entry. And lots of them come in between the ports.
This chart shows the seizures at ports and seizures at BP checkpoints (on highways within 100 miles of the border) LINK
It doesn't show the entry point for the seizures at the BP checkpoints. Obviously some of them likely entered at a port undetected, but it is reasonable to assume some of them entered the US by being smuggled across the border between ports.
I'll see if I can find statistics on seizures in the field (aka smuggled across the border not at a port).
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:46 pm to biggsc
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Are you serious?
The talking point is that people like Rush and Coulter drive the opinions of congressman like Rubio. Is that really something that I should believe to be true? Because that sounds like bs to me.
ETA: Same talking point being pushed on CNN.
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:54 pm to Saint Alfonzo
I may be off here, but it appears that Trump just offered the Dems what they wanted during the shutdown in Jan. 2018.
He knows the Dems will reject because they arent wanting to compromise. They just want to obstruct. Giving them exactly what they said caused the shutdown last year will just further prove it.
As each day goes by, he is just slowly chipping away at democrat voters. They are slowly beginning to see what their party has become as the blinders slowly are being pulled off by trumps strategic moves.
He knows the Dems will reject because they arent wanting to compromise. They just want to obstruct. Giving them exactly what they said caused the shutdown last year will just further prove it.
As each day goes by, he is just slowly chipping away at democrat voters. They are slowly beginning to see what their party has become as the blinders slowly are being pulled off by trumps strategic moves.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:55 pm to themunch
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tied up in the liberal courts forever
True and Trump can blame the courts for not getting his wall but that is about all he is going to get out of the emergency option.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:56 pm to redneck hippie
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And almost all drugs come in through legal checkpoints.
I laugh whenever sore loser lefties say that most of the illegal drugs come into the USA through legal checkpoints so we don't need a wall.
First, there is no way for anyone to know how much drugs get into the USA at other points along the border besides the legal checkpoints.
Secondly, if they don't build the wall but strengthen the legal checkpoints so that it will be even harder for drugs to get through them then what do you think the drug dealers will do?
I'll answer my own question.
The drug dealers will stop trying to get drugs through the legal checkpoints.
The drug dealers will just bring all of their drugs through openings in the present wall system.
That's why President Trump says it is necessary to build the wall, use drones and other high tech equipment to patrol it as well as strengthen the legal checkpoints.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:00 pm to IllegalPete
A Google news search for "border patrol drug seizures" yields some interesting results.
LINK
The first 2 pages of results are all MSM articles from the last month bashing Trump and the Border Patrol, calling it a manufactured crisis.
Then you get to actual stories about the drug seizures. Most of them are from seizures at the ports, from San Diego to Brownsville and every state between.
I scrolled through about 7 pages worth and did not see any stories specifically about drugs seized from illegal crossers.
All of the seizures were either at ports or at BP inland checkpoints.
I know from speaking with agents that they do confiscate SOME drugs while patrolling their AOR. Perhaps it is only a fraction of the total seizures.
Thanks for motivating me to do some research to educate myself on the issue.
LINK
The first 2 pages of results are all MSM articles from the last month bashing Trump and the Border Patrol, calling it a manufactured crisis.
Then you get to actual stories about the drug seizures. Most of them are from seizures at the ports, from San Diego to Brownsville and every state between.
I scrolled through about 7 pages worth and did not see any stories specifically about drugs seized from illegal crossers.
All of the seizures were either at ports or at BP inland checkpoints.
I know from speaking with agents that they do confiscate SOME drugs while patrolling their AOR. Perhaps it is only a fraction of the total seizures.
Thanks for motivating me to do some research to educate myself on the issue.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:05 pm to fargobison
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tied up in the liberal courts forever
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True and Trump can blame the courts for not getting his wall but that is about all he is going to get out of the emergency option.
I'm not an attorney so I could be wrong but I think if a lower court rules against President Trump then his attorneys can ask for the case to be expedited directly to the SCOTUS because it is a national emergency.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:08 pm to DawgfaninCa
No
Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:12 pm to baybeefeetz
It's never happened before?
Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:12 pm to IllegalPete
Most of us don’t live in the problem areas. Here are some thoughts from someone who does.
Hope the link to FB works
Hope the link to FB works
Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:17 pm to IllegalPete
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I scrolled through about 7 pages worth and did not see any stories specifically about drugs seized from illegal crossers.
All of the seizures were either at ports or at BP inland checkpoints.
I know from speaking with agents that they do confiscate SOME drugs while patrolling their AOR. Perhaps it is only a fraction of the total seizures.
That was my first point.
No one knows how much drugs have gotten through places along the open border.
All they know is how much drugs haven't gotten through places along the open border.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:19 pm to baybeefeetz
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No
Are you an attorney?
Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:26 pm to DawgfaninCa
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then his attorneys can ask for the case to be expedited directly to the SCOTUS because it is a national emergency.
There’s no guarantee the SC would take the case
Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:30 pm to tgrbaitn08
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then his attorneys can ask for the case to be expedited directly to the SCOTUS because it is a national emergency.
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There’s no guarantee the SC would take the case
I'd take the chance that the SCOTUS will hear the case.
You can't win if you don't try.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:37 pm to DawgfaninCa
I hear ya, I’m just pointing that out.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:42 pm to DawgfaninCa
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The drug dealers will stop trying to get drugs through the legal checkpoints.
We'll know where to catch them then.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:47 pm to DawgfaninCa
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take the chance that the SCOTUS will hear the case
I doubt SCOTUS would have jurisdiction until Court of Appeals rules. I’m no expert, but SCOTUS has very limited original jurisdiction, and everything else is governed by statute. A quick look at the statutes tells me that it has writ jurisdiction only over the court of appeals.
I don’t think you can bypass that process. Could be wrong.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:57 pm to fargobison
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The dems are never going to give Trump a penny for any kind of barrier for the border. Trump needs to just go ahead and declare a national emergency, build the wall, and deploy tanks on the border until the wall is built.
If he does that there won't be a wall, it will be tied up in the courts forever.
No just until about next summer or the government could request an earlier hearing by the SCOTUS. Since it is time dependent and it only takes 4 SCOTUS voting in favor to hear the case it could be heard sooner. The law is clearly with the President so he would win.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 5:01 pm to tgrbaitn08
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then his attorneys can ask for the case to be expedited directly to the SCOTUS because it is a national emergency.
There’s no guarantee the SC would take the case
There is no guarantee but there was no guarantee that the SCOTUS hear the 2000 florida recall case on an expedited basis, but that does not mean that he can't try. If they do not hear it then Trump can keep redeclaring a state of emergency until they do, and when they do hear it, he will win.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 5:14 pm to WeeWee
Stand up you nimrods
not directed at one person
not directed at one person
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 5:15 pm
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