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re: President Trump Should DEMAND That Paul "Benedict Arnold" Ryan Step Down Immediately!
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:30 am to KCT
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:30 am to KCT
quote:Maybe Ryan didn't appreciate the little "Check out Judge Jeannine tonight!" backstabbing that Trump did.
What a total POS that lyin' little snake is! I personally watched Hannity interview that little weasel a couple of months ago, and lyin' Ryan said he was 100% on board with building the wall.
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Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:36 am to KCT
Get Em Out!
This post was edited on 4/22/17 at 10:38 am
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:42 am to mmcgrath
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Maybe Ryan didn't appreciate the little "Check out Judge Jeannine tonight!" backstabbing that Trump did.
Nah they were best friends til now. Great respect between the two of them.
Also Trump can't do much to Paul Ryan. And Paul Ryan can't do much because the Republican party technically has a majority but they're so fragmented and ideological it's completely wasted.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:53 am to KCT
We should go build a wall around his Janesville office and make it go viral
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:07 am to UHTiger
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You understand Ryan doesn't work for trump don't you?
This.
The leaps made on this board? The "you're fired" guy is the POTUS. People should be happy with that major switch. But even that is not enough for some. They want to prop him up as the Supreme Leader. It's fricking comical. Judge disagrees? "Who the frick does this federal judge think he is!?" Ryan disagrees or tries to actually be a politician? Who the frick does this Speaker person think he is?!"
Trump should circumvent all of the other 2 branches of government? Not only circumvent, but make them now to his will? You guys are fricking crazy. Talk about Deep State. You want one man pulling all the strings.
We are only near 100 days. Good luck in mid elections GOP. The backlash will be real. Guys will be "standing up to Trump" on both sides of the aisle to keep their seats.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:12 am to LSU alum wannabe
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Trump should circumvent all of the other 2 branches of government? Not only circumvent, but make them now to his will? You guys are fricking crazy. Talk about Deep State. You want one man pulling all the strings.
There's a reason Trump said the following:
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:40 am to LSU alum wannabe
The Dems are in far worse shape than the TOP. I'm no fan of the GOP, but it's the Dems who are reeling right now.
As I see it now, 2018 will continue to deliver good news to the TOP. Too bad they don't know what the freak to do when they do get the upper hand. True conservatives such as myself need a national Conzervative Party to support. Of course, they'd probably just go to Washington and get bought off, too.
As I see it now, 2018 will continue to deliver good news to the TOP. Too bad they don't know what the freak to do when they do get the upper hand. True conservatives such as myself need a national Conzervative Party to support. Of course, they'd probably just go to Washington and get bought off, too.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:43 am to KCT
As far as the wall is concerned, I guarantee you that this fight isn't over. Trump knows that "Build the wall!" resonated with supporters more than anything else.
Of course, that's one more reason why the global elitists are trying to stop it. It's an effective way to damage Trump.
Stay tuned.
Of course, that's one more reason why the global elitists are trying to stop it. It's an effective way to damage Trump.
Stay tuned.
This post was edited on 4/22/17 at 11:44 am
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:45 am to KCT
Look at the downvotes lol. Lots of paid trolls on this board
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:45 am to oklahogjr
quote:I remember when Cruz and Trump were besties. I don't think Trump is capable of maintaining a friendship. Part of his narcissistic disorder.
Nah they were best friends til now. Great respect between the two of them.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:52 am to bamafan1001
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Lots of paid trolls on this board
Let me guess...funded by George Soros, right?
Posted on 4/22/17 at 12:26 pm to KCT
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of the GOP, but it's the Dems who are reeling right now.
"Right now" is key. Two years is a long way off. And at the rate it is going it will be an exhausting two years.
If Trump quietly governed for a while the GOP would clean up in Mids. He keeps giving the media fodder. They make up some of their own, but he makes it easy for them.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 12:34 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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Judge disagrees? "Who the frick does this federal judge think he is!?"
The judge didn't disagree based on any law or legal precedent. He blocked the travel ban for two reasons:
1) Because Trump is the one who issued it.
2) Judge Watson graduated from law school with Obama and was appointed to his seat by Obama.
Every legal scholar and federal judge who has reviewed it said judge Watson is FOS. Even the 9th circuit weighed in and wrote scathing critiques of his ruling. The 9th fricking circuit!
So, as has always been the case with the left, they legislate from the bench and change our laws with judges who have no place whatsoever doing it (that's the job of Congress). This has been their tactic for decades because it's much easier than making new law and getting it passed.
The bottom line is that the president has the ultimate authority to do whatever he pleases with immigration. This is not debatable whatsoever and the law is crystal clear. Congress gave him this authority well over a century ago and the Supreme Court has ruled on it numerous times (and upheld the president's authority).
As for Ryan, no one here said Trump can fire him (he can't). What Trump can do is make it known he wants him to go. For instance, he can refuse to sign any legislation Ryan proposes and he can refuse to work with the Republicans on anything until Ryan is out. After a while this will force Congress to act and ditch the guy.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 12:36 pm to KCT
He could try. I mean I'm almost certain that would result in the House GOP rallying around Ryan (hint: Congressmen have egos and if given the chance to play hero standing up to the man they will i. a heartbeat, look at how they reacted to Bannon trying to bully them), but he could try.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 12:50 pm to AUstar
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Every legal scholar and federal judge who has reviewed it said judge Watson is FOS. Even the 9th circuit weighed in and wrote scathing critiques of his ruling. The 9th fricking circuit!
So, as has always been the case with the left, they legislate from the bench and change our laws with judges who have no place whatsoever doing it (that's the job of Congress). This has been their tactic for decades because it's much easier than making new law and getting it passed.
If this is the case? Fine. My point is with the overall attitude of "who is this judge to judge me...?"
He is a fricking Judge. It's what they do. If other judges and lawyers have since shite on the merits of his decision, so be it. Let legal minds hash it out, NOT trump. quote:
What Trump can do is make it known he wants him to go. For instance, he can refuse to sign any legislation Ryan proposes and he can refuse to work with the Republicans on anything until Ryan is out. After a while this will force Congress to act and ditch the guy.
That is some shady shite. I know people have used the veto. Trump is not popular enough to pull this off. Ryan is an actual politician. Whether you agree on his leaning or not, he can actually have a debate. He is an adult in charge. While I may not agree with him I want him in there. Like Mattis. He looks like a crusty a-hole! But that job needs an a-hole. A competent a-hole.
You guys seem to want a North Korean leadership model where everyone fawns over every word The Donald says and if not? frick EM!!
Posted on 4/22/17 at 12:55 pm to Texas Weazel
Im certainly not paying them
Posted on 4/22/17 at 12:58 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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That is some shady shite. I know people have used the veto. Trump is not popular enough to pull this off. Ryan is an actual politician. Whether you agree on his leaning or not, he can actually have a debate. He is an adult in charge. While I may not agree with him I want him in there. Like Mattis. He looks like a crusty a-hole! But that job needs an a-hole. A competent a-hole.
It's not shady, it's politics as usual. This kind of shite is not unheard of. Trump has every right to refuse legislation until Ryan is out. He probably wont straight up veto bills, but he can work behind the scenes building an alliance of Republicans who want Ryan out (and there's more than a few).
Posted on 4/22/17 at 1:01 pm to montanagator
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He could try.
He has to try. Take it from someone who never expected to be a political supporter of Donald Trump, but nonetheless discovered that most components of his message strongly resonated with me. Next to the MAGA campaign slogan itself, "Build the Wall!" was easily the most symbolic, even iconic, soundbyte slogan of Trump's entire campaign.
I'm a Trump supporter, but I will tell you straight up that Trump's Presidency will be damaged if funding for the wall is not approved. Will it be a mortal blow? No, but it will definitely be a major setback.
I want the wall for all the right reasons. I'm perfectly fine with sensible LEGAL immigration. But, people need to come to America on OUR TERMS; not theirs. That includes being respectful of the laws that we currently have on the books regarding ILLEGAL immigration.
Some people say the wall would be largely symbolic. While I think it would be much more than that, I also don't dismiss the power of symbolism. Look at the positive effect that Trump has already had on illegal immigration, and that's simply due to the "symbolism" of having a new sheriff in town who isn't going to tolerate illegal immigration.
Trump has to try to procure funding for the border wall. In addition to being the right thing to do, it was a chief tenet of his campaign. If Trump loses this battle, it will be seen as a YUUUGE failure.
Sorry to give you an in-depth response on what is primarily a soundbyte board, but I feel very strongly about this. Some people here might not like my input, but it's always based on what I truly believe.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 1:03 pm to AUstar
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but he can work behind the scenes building an alliance of Republicans
That will never happen. He refuses to do anything behind the scenes. And I can't imagine any politician trusting him.
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