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re: President Trump - 2nd best president after President Reagan

Posted on 12/17/22 at 10:32 am to
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25291 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 10:32 am to
TRUMP is #1 in my book.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55739 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 10:34 am to
Trump’s domestic and foreign policies were very solid, definitely top three of modern day presidents….what takes Trump out of being one of the top three modern day presidents was his failure to identify rock solid America First patriots to assist him in draining the Swamp. Trump had and still has a real problem reading the underlying intentions of those people he surrounds himself.

I truly believe if Trump could have filled his staff with enough real America First firebrands on day one of his presidency and immediately began cleaning house with the dismissal of Comey and other Bureaucratic State traitors he may have had a chance to catch the Swamp rat bastards off guard and made a serious dent in draining the Swamp.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21120 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 10:54 am to
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Reagan? He granted amnesty to six million illegals


Which to this day would have been a damn good trade off had the sorry assed Dems only lived up to their end of the bargain and sealed the border.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49531 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 11:46 am to
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Not enough data, and he gave us LBJ

And he paid for that with his life - and our future.

Actually JFKs actions were good = forced into near greatness.

I was pro-Nixon in 60 but was OK with JFK even after it was almost certain that Nixon had been cheated out of the victory by the 'dead' vote in Chicago and Texas.

However, it was legitimately close enough that it was not worth the 'constitutional crisis' to fight against it. This was Nixon's stance, and I supported it.

I didn't begin to sour on JFK until I learned that the biggest part of his election success was the perception that he pushed during the campaign = that the "Administration was not doing enough to stop Castro."

Which was possibly a true statement EXCEPT that JFK had been briefed on upcoming the Bay-of-Pigs operation. And when that operation came to pass, he withheld the air support element which doomed it to failure.

SO - he lied about our not 'doing anything' and then when it came to pass during his term, he withheld the vital element that would have 'possibly' resulted in its success. (perhaps it could not have succeeded in any event, and perhaps we should have done something sooner - but that is not the argument - he did NOTHING other than initiate out the Eisenhower/Nixon plan and then scuttled it. Giving Russia the foothold they needed in the Western Hemisphere to cause all the problems we have had since.)

to me - this alone rates him as responsible for one of our most disastrous failures in our existence and has paved the way for the successive failures we have endured since.

I cannot help but wonder how much better our culture would be today without all the 'good' that JFK did = I KNOW we'd be better off had LBJ had died as a common criminal much earlier.

edit - and yes - I profited greatly from the 'moon probgram' and I have never given him anything but excessive praise for his leadership in that effort.

BUT if you ask me today - would I trade delaying that achievement by another decade in exchange for not having all the ills wreaked by LBJ = I'll say HELL YES !!

Lyndon Baines Johnson is the worst president of all time - and its not even close (the only challenge is whomever is pulling the puppet strings on this piece of pure shite we have today posing as Joe Biden === we wouldn't have had to worry about the stench of the Biden admin had it not been for LBJ)
This post was edited on 12/17/22 at 11:51 am
Posted by davidsheroes
Los Angeles
Member since May 2007
3861 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:52 pm to
1. Reagan
2. Trump
3. Kennedy
4. Nixon
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 10:06 pm to
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Reagan was the biggest RINO of the 1900's. If you think he was conservative, you don't know him very well.


Ignorance. Reagan was the most conservative President of my lifetime.

Only Coolidge was more conservative.
This post was edited on 12/17/22 at 10:07 pm
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

FDR

Dafuq?
quote:

Jackson

Ehhhhhhh...some positive/mostly negative

The rest fair enough
Posted by davidsheroes
Los Angeles
Member since May 2007
3861 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 12:45 am to
I agree

My grandfather didn’t like any politician until Reagan came along.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47151 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 6:33 am to
They'd sell out in less than 12 hours too?
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