re: President of Southern Baptist uses preferred pronouns.

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I don’t have time at the moment to get into a theological debate.

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It wasn't directed only at you; there's a lot of non-Baptists that think they know what goes on in Baptist Churches. Trust me these churches have plenty of issues but straying from the Bible ain't one of them.

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there's a lot of non-Baptists that think they know what goes on in Baptist Churches

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Exactly. I sometimes enjoy these people telling me what I believe

We don't think drinking is wrong i.e. sinful. Abstaining is just a way some (SOME) choose to separate themselves. Just as Paul preached that one should avoid getting married if at all possible because marriage would interfere with one's ministry. Was Paul saying marriage is wrong? Of course not.

Almost everything that gets misinterpreted goes back to our Be In the World but Not Part of the World belief. Understandable. It's a walk of life, not a written prescription

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I know many heavy drinking baptists, lol.

But seriously, nothing in their beliefs is inconsistent with the word of Christ.

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I don't either, that's just someone trying to be edgy.

The alcohol issue fell apart with knowledge. When a preacher's library was the closest copy of a concordance it's easy to tell people "well, here when it says wine it means wine, and here it means grape juice". Sort tough to pull that off when you can look up the Greek/Hebrew/Aramaic on your smartphone.

And for the most part I think it was well-intentioned; alcohol can be quite damaging. But it doesn't say what it doesn't say and it's wrong to make the claim.

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That baptism literally means to submerge and that it doesn’t say to sprinkle babies and call it baptism? What does the Bible say about purgatory, nuns, holy water, monks, and monasteries? What about selling indulgences out of a magical hat? Or building an unassailable cabal of gays and pedos (I repeat myself) to rape children since the high Middle Ages?

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You may be interested to know that the Orthodox Church baptizes by immersion, does not believe in purgatory, does not sell indulgences, opposes homosexuality, and has married priests. What you reference are innovations in the Roman Patriarchate after they fell into schism with the rest of Christendom in 1054.

Southern baptists are a non factor. The convention is losing and closing churches and their membership is down to like twelve million from a high of fifteen. Out of the southern states they Don’t exist. Their main tenet is to criticize how every other religion goes about its business.

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Orthodoxy does have nuns, and also monks and monasteries which come from eastern mysticism that predate Christianity and don’t belong in it.

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The discussion on the origins of monasticism is a long one, but suffice it to say for now without getting far into the weeds that it has been a part of Christendom from perhaps 3-4 generations after the apostles lived at the most and is a legitimate way for some believers to live so as to follow Christs commandment to live a holy life.

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Also, I don’t know whose picture that icon is, but it isn’t the Lord Jesus Christ.

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Now this takes us someplace very intresting, go back and read John 20:6-7 and make special note of the folded face cloth of Christ. This particular object has a fascinating history. It's likely route took it from Jerusalem to Edessa with the Apostle Thomas to Constantinople to Rome to an obscure village in Italy (thanks to some Papal corruption) where it can be seen today. What you see on it will blow your mind...The holographic image (I have no better way to describe it) of the face of the risen Christ, eyes open, on an ancient unpaintable fabric that matches the death image on the Shroud of Turin.

Think about that for a second.. Now in 2019 we know exactly what Jesus looked like.



Biblical archeology is a fascinating topic that will strengthen your faith should you chose to study it.

Good. All religions must abide by our manifesto and the southern baptist are no different. Did you really think the southern baptist would stand against the progress humanity is making in ridding all minds of traditional gender roles and gay rights. We are everywhere and will have our way with every organization. We are inevitable and you better get used to it and like it.

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churches have been leaving the SBC because of this type of stuff in droves.

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Link to these droves of churches that have left the SBC.

Have you seen what we did to the Catholic Church in 50 years? They believe in nothing traditional anymore and the laity ate it all up while their demise was right in front of their face.

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Have you seen what we did to the Catholic Church in 50 years? They believe in nothing traditional anymore and the laity ate it all up while their demise was right in front of their face

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Because just like the SBC and United Methodist, televangelists and Episcopalians, churches are putting money at the heart of what drives them not spreading the word of God.

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Matthew 6:24 King James Version (KJV) 24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon

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