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re: Post your reaction to Massie losing

Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:54 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:54 am to
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but can we at least stop pretending that Thomas Massie was doing anything about it?


All you're doing is showing the bankruptcy of the policy position of MAGA and not criticizing Massie. He's only one vote and MAGA wants to spend like DEMs. What, exactly, could he do?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:54 am to
So that’s a yes. Got it

You are OK with fraud and waste under certain circumstances.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:55 am to
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DOGE means nothing


You think what he did to USAID means nothing?

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if Trump/MAGA continue to sign CRs that spend at Biden levels.


Please put forth your suggestion for a spending bill or CR that will fund vital governmental departments that will also cut spending that can pass a vote that the democrats won't obstruct?

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What in the hell?


House passes bill criminilizing trangender surgery on minors

For those of us with families, the battle for the souls of our children is more important than Massie's attention whoring, and Epstein. You don't have children, you wouldn't understand.

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His constituents changed, is why he lost.


Yeah, all of Kentucky changed, not Massie.

This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 8:56 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:56 am to
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So we shouldn’t bother cleaning up rank fraud unless we also reduce the deficit?
Wherre did anyone say we shouldn’t stop fraud? But yes if Congress keeps spending as much (or more!) than Biden we will… you know… outspend democrats.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:56 am to
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So that’s a yes. Got it

You are OK with fraud and waste under certain circumstances.


Holy fricking shite what dishonesty.

If we cut spending, there couldn't be any "fraud". It won't be possible.

If we maintain spending, then 'fraud" will remain.

You support the latter. I support the former. My policy will actually do something about fraud and our deficit/debt.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47604 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:56 am to
My contention is that Massie is not sincere.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:57 am to
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Did Massie vote for or against the Save America Act?

Oof. Brutal.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:57 am to
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If we cut spending, there couldn't be any "fraud". It won't be possible.


This is magnificently ignorant
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:58 am to
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You think what he did to USAID means nothing?

Why the pivot?

Why do y'all have such an issue responding relevantly?

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Please put forth your suggestion for a spending bill or CR that will fund vital governmental departments that will also cut spending that can pass a vote that the democrats won't obstruct?

Oh look, it's Kevin McCarthy

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House passes bill criminilizing trangender surgery on minors

How did Massie vote on that bill?

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Yeah, all of Kentucky changed,

His district is not all of Kentucky

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not Massie.

Which specific policies has he shifted on since November 2024?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:59 am to
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My contention is that Massie is not sincere.

Then you are ignoring all the data to live your truth.

Spending like a DEM and reasoning like a DEM.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:59 am to
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This is magnificently ignorant


If we allocated $0 then how can there be fraud with that $0?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47604 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:00 am to
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Wherre did anyone say we shouldn’t stop fraud?


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DOGE means nothing if Trump/MAGA continue to sign CRs that spend at Biden levels. Literally nothing
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:00 am to
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… in the primaries.


Cope, bro. Cope more.

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Where you find a paradox, one is not true.


Explain it. You said that all of the guy's that wanted McCarthy have been ousted. Those same guys lost to Trump's picks. So if the guys that wanted McCarthy ousted, are also Trump's picks, then how is Trump a McCarthy guy? Or is this just 4D chess by Trump?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63438 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:00 am to
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You aren’t wrong but can we at least stop pretending that Thomas Massie was doing anything about it?
Giving a free pass to the entire GOPE leadership, while shifting the entire burden fiscal responsibility onto one Congressman is silly.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:00 am to
Yeah that doesn't say we shouldn't stop fraud

You're usually bad at logic but you're on another level this morning
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477069 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:01 am to
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You said that all of the guy's that wanted McCarthy have been ousted. Those same guys lost to Trump's picks. So if the guys that wanted McCarthy ousted, are also Trump's picks, then how is Trump a McCarthy guy?

Your faulty assumption is that Trump is consistent

You miss the entire point
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:01 am to
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MAGA/Trump allocate $50B to the DOE in 2025 with "fraud"

In 2026, they "clean up rank fraud" in the DOE, but still sign a CR allocating $50B to the DOE.
Its the classic GOPE. “We want to spend just as much, just on different things”.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477069 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:04 am to
The cope-spin to defend Biden-level spending (on top of Trump's Covid-era spending) is so entertaining. And these are the same people who once claimed to be supporters of the Tea Party and small government.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63438 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:04 am to
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Wherre did anyone say we shouldn’t stop fraud?

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DOGE means nothing if Trump/MAGA continue to sign CRs that spend at Biden levels. Literally nothing
Of we cut fraud to $0, but never reduced the budget, would we spend more or less than before? Use chstGPT if needed.
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 9:05 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:04 am to
That only works if you allocate zero to everything. You could cut the military budget tomorrow by half and the waste and fraud at USAID, HUD, and the DOE continues. It’s not complicated.

We should cut waste and fraud AND reduce the deficit. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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