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re: Pornography is not conservative
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:37 am to mtb010
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:37 am to mtb010
quote:That verse is taken out of context, look at the verses before and after it is clear that Jesus was in no way condoning the woman's behavior, rather that they were not in compliance with the law they were attempting to get him to administer (trying to trap Jesus), according to the law, the witness to the crime had to participate in the punishment. Which is why Jesus asked about picking up the stone.
Let ye without sin cast the first stone. Sin is Sin, for them to single her out like that was not necessary.
Ephesians 5:11
Take no part in the worthless deeds of evil and darkness; instead, expose them.
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:38 am to MAADFACTS
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quote:Addiction does in fact take its toll on families, and porn can become an addiction - just like alcohol can; so, the OP’s statement’s not without merit So because some weak man somewhere might become an alcoholic, no alcohol can be present at events you attend?
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:38 am to anc
Porn isn’t inherently conservative, but freedom of speech and freedom of expression should be. The free market should be. The issues with porn are typically in two contexts: puritanical views on sex and masterbation and issues of consent regarding the people involved in making pornography.
In my personal opinion, porn, like any other form of performance or entertainment should be consumed at the discretion of its audience and performed by consenting adults. I would rather “adult” art forms be a little harder to come across accidentally, especially in public places where children are typically present, but other than that, it should be permitted.
Now, permitting something isn’t the same as celebrating it. People should still have the right to judge pornography, its users, and those involved in making it negatively, but I feel it is foolish to exclude people from your political party solely due to their involvement in porn. It’s one thing if you’re vetting candidates for office to endorse, but banning them from participating in a conference is just dumb.
In my personal opinion, porn, like any other form of performance or entertainment should be consumed at the discretion of its audience and performed by consenting adults. I would rather “adult” art forms be a little harder to come across accidentally, especially in public places where children are typically present, but other than that, it should be permitted.
Now, permitting something isn’t the same as celebrating it. People should still have the right to judge pornography, its users, and those involved in making it negatively, but I feel it is foolish to exclude people from your political party solely due to their involvement in porn. It’s one thing if you’re vetting candidates for office to endorse, but banning them from participating in a conference is just dumb.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:39 am to Seldom Seen
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Allegedly. There's a big difference between having sex with a porn star and being a porn star.
Yes, yes. The “sin” is carried by the person who is getting ejaculated on and not the one ejaculating. If there is anything worse than christian moralists, it’s dudes like you who define sin so that it can never apply to you. You want to be free? Lose all notions of sin. Do not serve that which you cannot possibly believe and just enjoy the lady with the big titties bouncing up and down on your shaft without pretending that she is the one who is doing something wrong. Neither of you are
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:40 am to GEAUXmedic
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Republicans had a chance to be the big tent party. Continuing to push Christian values will ruin them even more. Separate church and state. frick your morals.
How's that working out for us?
You can't change the culture by being the culture.
The church shows this well. We've adopted the culture to try and appeal to people in the culture when we should have been providing and promoting an alternative to it.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:40 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Trump was never promoted as some sort of uber conservative religious leader.
Exactly, people like the haiMichigan poster here and many others across this country still don’t get it.
Trump’s rockstar status has very little to do with conservatism. It has a whole lot to do with being an America first outsider who brought a wrecking ball to the DC establishment and shook them the frick up like no one has ever done before.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:40 am to anc
How many people here have never viewed porn of any kind? Just curious to see how many hypocrites we have.
Pornography is part of humanity.
Pornography is part of humanity.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:40 am to anc
It feels like a 1980s southern Baptist church is running the GOP?
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:41 am to anc
Freedom, even freedom we don’t personally indulge , is still freedom. So while you make a valid point about the negative effects that pornography can possibly have on individuals and families, we must accept the reality of it ( and gambling, philandering, sloth , greed , etc) and make room in our POLITICAL coalition for those who are not culturally Conservative. The Libertarian Right and The Conservative Right and the traditionalists and the working class populists should all be mutually respectful and build a coalition to beat back the Cultural cannibals of Progressivism. Then we can have these intercine squabbles.
Or conversely, lose everything.
Or conversely, lose everything.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:41 am to Man With A Plan
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Ephesians 5:11
Take no part in the worthless deeds of evil and darkness; instead, expose them.
Did you vote for Trump?
Anyone who voted for Trump, given his lifestyle, and wants this lady to be cancelled given her lifestyle is a fricking hypocrite.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:41 am to Rex Feral
No I didn’t miss the point of the post. I didn’t comment about the main issue of the post. Go back and look at who I was responding to when I made that post and what their original comment was that I responded to
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 10:43 am
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:42 am to BayBengal9
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Should we immediately ostricize an individual for personal choices that may or may not have been in the best interest of themselves or their family merely on our outside view of things while we agree on everything from a political level?
No. Forgiveness is possible. God forgives sin. No, people should not be getting divorced for reasons other than adultery. We wouldn't be having this discussion if she was a reformed porn star no longer participating in the practice. It makes sense that a conservative organization would not want to be associated with an actual, current porn star at an event for young people.
It seems reasonable to note that there is a very real, Biblical argument that adultery includes use of pornography.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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Because the group of people who promoted Trump as the face of conservatism are now trying to pretend like they didn't...or his moral depravity somehow didn't count, even though it was celebrated.
Nonsense post of the day...all that is just BS
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:42 am to RogerTheShrubber
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wants this lady to be cancelled
Who is calling for her to be cancelled?
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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Because the group of people who promoted Trump as the face of conservatism are now trying to pretend like they didn't...or his moral depravity somehow didn't count, even though it was celebrated.
News flash!!!
ALL human beings are SINNERS! And yes Trump had/has an adultery problem. He probably has hundreds of other sins like everyone including you and me. But he is the only real conservative president sin Ronald Reagan. And his official actions greatly helped America.
Now if you are looking for a politician without moral issues; THERE ARE NONE. But, we can judge their immortality as it affects their office. Biden’s son was bribed by Ukrainians and Biden bribed the Ukrainian government to cover it up with tax payer dollars. Trump asked the Ukrainian government to investigate this and the DNC/MSM Political Complex got all butt hurt about legal and beneficial foreign policy.
Trump’s infidelity didn’t cost or affect America in anyway. Biden’s corruption cost taxpayers and damages American foreign policy. I wish Biden hadn’t stolen the election because Trump was a very rare Great president and an ordinary flawed man like 100% of humanity.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
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How many people here have never viewed porn of any kind? Just curious to see how many hypocrites we have.
Pornography is part of humanity.
I've had racist thoughts but I don't think racism is good. It's part of humanity.
I've had selfish thoughts, greedy thoughts, murderous thoughts, authoritarian thoughts, etc. etc. All are "human."
I hate the argument that humans should do anything and everything because it's "human nature." We're the one creature on this planet that has the ability to defy what comes instinctively to us if we believe it is for the betterment of ourselves, our families, our culture, etc. That is the pinnacle of being human - being able to reject your instincts and impulses because you possess the intentionality to be able to do so.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:44 am to RogerTheShrubber
Anyone that looks lustfully at a female commits adultery, doesn't matter if you're doing the act physically or spiritually, there is no difference it is a sin and wrong. Porn is definitely wrong, viewing it is committing Adultery and fornication. No Christian should have anything to do with the works of the flesh. Sexual sin is not a joke, and should never be normalized.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:44 am to IceTiger
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Nonsense post of the day...all that is just BS
what is BS?
was Trump the face of conservatism? yes
did social conservatives ignore his moral depravity? yes
was his moral depravity celebrated? yes. remember all the threads about how Melania was so hot? Donnie 9-inch? all the "alpha male" talk b/c of the women he's had sex with?
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:44 am to MAADFACTS
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The “sin” is carried by the person who is getting ejaculated on and not the one ejaculating.
Nope. You missed his point. There is a big difference between committing a sin and continually and purposefully living in sin.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:44 am to anc
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Pornography is not conservative
The freedom to pursue it should be unchecked for adults.
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