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re: Pope: “You ain’t pro life”.

Posted on 10/4/25 at 9:38 pm to
Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 9:38 pm to
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FooManChoo


Sorry had to find a funny way to get the point across

You are far better off than most other protestants. At least you are better at explaining your protests than most protestants which just think the Church is the devil because thats just what the pastor says at church on Sunday
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Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 9:40 pm to
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He's in jail. He wasn't shuffled off to another church... it wasn't swept under the rug. He stepped down before they fired him and he's now in jail.


Maybe they are just better at hiding it.

God knows how many of them are out there.
Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 9:41 pm to
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This pope lost me when he blessed a block of ice at a recent climate change conference


Catholic blessings can be to anything. We bless chalk, throats, eyes, salt, etc.

That situation was no different.

Its not a sacramental blessing like holy water
Posted by BigD45
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 9:58 pm to
Clean up your own house and hold your own pedophile priests accountable for the shite they have done before you start trying to be all high and mighty over the rest of us. The popes can frick off!
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 10:16 pm to
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I'm not a biblical scholar, but pretty sure the Bible allows for the death penalty.

Penalty: stoning to death
-blasphemy
-rebelling against a parent
-picking up sticks on the sabbath
-worshipping a god other than Yahweh
-enticing others to worship other gods
-adultery
-witchcraft
-necromancy
-premarital sex (for the woman)

Penalty: burning alive until dead
-priest’s daughter becomes a whore
-having sex with your mother in law

Penalty: unknown method but probably stoning
-murder

At any rate, any of the above offenses, after the person is stoned to death or burned to death, is to be followed by the offender being hanged from a tree until evening.

So you sir are correct.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 10:23 pm to
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Squirrelmeister


Keep on being squirrely

Posted by Squirrelmeister
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 10:41 pm to
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Keep on being squirrely

It’s all objective morality rooted in God’s authority and perfectly moral and good character.

What I didn’t include is where these offenders are supposed to be put to death. So like a girl who has premarital sex is supposed to be stoned to death on her father’s doorstep and then hanged from a tree to be a spectacle for the town.

God isn’t pro-life. The Pope isn’t doing God’s will. I think God likes killing more than he likes creating life, and the proof is all throughout the Bible.
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 10:52 pm to
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Sorry had to find a funny way to get the point across
Hah I get it. Appreciate the light-hearted approach

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You are far better off than most other protestants. At least you are better at explaining your protests than most protestants which just think the Church is the devil.
Thanks; I actually get pretty frustrated by the state of Protestantism today and get why so many evangelicals, in particular, are leaving for something deeper or substantial in Catholicism and Orthodoxy. Many Protestant churches are shallow in their worship and teaching and many Christians are wholly ignorant of the Bible.
Posted by Guntoter1
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 11:04 pm to
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It seems that the importance of the Pope is a something that changes based on the particular point a Catholic is trying to make. He is either the holy and honorable pontiff and supreme head of the Church, or he's just some dude with his own opinions that can be ignored, depending on the conversation. Weird.


You poor confused man.
He is both.
But he is mostly the the head of the Governing body of the church that Christ established.
You know this is true but choose to distort the truth. (Not intentionally)
You truly believe you are following Christ even as you fight against his creation.
We know this pope is a fool just like the last one. As are many of the Bishops.
But we (as you) are doing our best to follow Christ as best we can.
We can not deny scripture or history.

To be as you are(outside of the church) would terrify me.
See Saint Paul
Also see Christ Prayer for unity.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 11:07 pm to
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Thanks; I actually get pretty frustrated by the state of Protestantism today and get why so many evangelicals, in particular, are leaving for something deeper or substantial in Catholicism and Orthodoxy. Many Protestant churches are shallow in their worship and teaching and many Christians are wholly ignorant of the Bible.


Im seeing that in Catholcism as well as many younger Catholics are making the choice to pursue traditional Catholicism (i.e. Latin mass) over nouvus ordo (post Vatican 2 mass).

Now, ive gone to both and can definitely say I prefer nouvus ordo, but the Church I attend has a relatively more traditional mass than most. Latin mass is beautiful and very reverent, nothing wrong with it, but I just prefer the English.


Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 11:11 pm to
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We know this pope is a fool just like the last one. As are many of the Bishops.
But we (as you) are doing our best to follow Christ as best we can.


Yeah I was going to get into this as well but decided not to. I mean I understand the perspective Leo is coming from more than Francis. I trust an Augustinian more than I do a Jesuit.

But at some point Catholics have to realize that hes not making proclamations from St Peter's chair...and there haven't been any new ecunemical councils so everything these last two popes have said up to this point is just another opinion from a leader within the Church. Nothing definitive about Catholicism has changed.

Also from an American perspective, religion gets wayyyyy too wrapped up in politics. Sure, I would love a leader or party that truly follows our Lord Jesus christ, king of endless glory...but that just isnt going to happen as it stands right now. Of course, saying that, I know that nobody truly knows when the second coming will arrive
This post was edited on 10/4/25 at 11:15 pm
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 11:14 pm to
I agree with the pope. I am pro-life. That doesn’t mean that we keep illegals in our country. The military and police also need to kill some people to save others. One can be pro-life and live in the real world.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 11:17 pm to
The new Pope kind of sucks
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 11:18 pm to
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Catholic blessings can be to anything. We bless chalk, throats, eyes, salt, etc


Any practicing Catholic should be ashamed and embarrassed

The church is a blasphemous abomination
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
14800 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 11:20 pm to
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I agree with the pope. I am pro-life. That doesn’t mean that we keep illegals in our country. The military and police also need to kill some people to save others. One can be pro-life and live in the real world


Its a tough cross to bear.

On one hand, abortion is totally wrong and does not respect the sanctity of life. End of story.

On the other hand, its really tough to parse the death penalty with an adult in modern times vs historical times. With how long the proceedings usually take, the person on death row could repent his sins properly and truly come into the kingdom of the lord (i.e. thief on the cross). Like Jesus preached to the prisoners, if we take their life away before they truly repent...is that morally correct? In the end, they will receive judgement...but are we doing our part to preach the gospel to the prisoners correctly...who is failing here?

This post was edited on 10/4/25 at 11:22 pm
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 11:22 pm to
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Any practicing Catholic should be ashamed and embarrassed

The church is a blasphemous abomination


Are we not in charge of taking care of God's creation?

Regardless if human induced climate change is correct (i dont believe it is), we should still do the most in our power to take care of the creation that God has given us...not destroy it.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 11:25 pm to
And I thought this Pope was supposed to reign Catholics back in, the entire religion is a fricking joke because of liberal zealots like him, I almost thought about going to Mass again, then I saw the frick bless a chunk of ice.
This post was edited on 10/4/25 at 11:26 pm
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
14800 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 11:28 pm to
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And I thought this Pope was supposed to reign Catholics back in, the entire religion is a fricking joke because of liberal zealots like him, I almost thought about going to Mass again, then I saw the frick bless a chunk of ice.


You are bringing political identities and ideologies into Catholicism.

Look at the deeper theological issues going on. Protecting God's creation and the dignity of life.





This post was edited on 10/4/25 at 11:29 pm
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 11:31 pm to
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You are bringing political identities and ideologies into Catholicism.


No, the Pope did that for me.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
14800 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 11:36 pm to
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No, the Pope did that for me.


Not going to discuss the actual root of these discussions the Pope discusses?


If you're worried about performative and political blessings, then I hate to tell you that there was at least one Priest in Moscow who blessed guns for the war in Ukraine....

Catholics, Orthodox, Priests, and yes, Bishops, are people, and sometimes people do things that aren't ideal. But what Bishops do with their blessings is a concern for other Bishops to rebuke or not - worry yourself with your sins and living a Holy and love-filled life every day, because that's vastly more important to the practice of your faith than what a Bishop is choosing to bless.
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