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re: Pope Francis permits Priests to bless same sex couples in major Vatican doctrine change

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Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:33 pm to
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Which doesn’t dispute my assertion that this is another made up non biblical theology that Catholics will say was passed down by oral tradition


Matthew 19:9

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I say to you, whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is unlawful) and marries another commits adultery."


Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:39 pm to
I don’t know what translation of Matthew you are reading from, but mime says;



Matthew 19:9

And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.


That’s a big difference from what you posted
This post was edited on 12/19/23 at 9:42 pm
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:41 pm to
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Pope


He's an apostate ruler of a satanic cult. Who's surprised?
Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:42 pm to
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don’t know what translation of Matthew you are reading from, but mime says;


Here ya go Catholic version of bible

ETA: look up why the Protestant bible is different.

Talk about this specific verse and it's different interpretation
This post was edited on 12/19/23 at 9:45 pm
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:44 pm to
Convenient.
Next you’ll tell me your Catholic version of the 10 Commandments is different to justify idol worship?!
Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:47 pm to
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different to justify idol worship?!


I'm sorry what idols to we worship?
Posted by lizlady68
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:51 pm to
Pope Francis is likely the last pope if you believe in St. Malachy premonitions. If so he brings the church to total chaos and hypocrisy. But the faithful can rise above this just as America can rise above our Tyrannical government. End of days we are living people. Keep Awake as the bible tells us!
Posted by BeepNode
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:52 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 10:58 pm
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:54 pm to
In the article you linked me, the Greek word used in the passage for justifying a divorce is” porneia” and somehow, my Bibles translating it into” sexual immorality” is wrong and it should instead be” unlawful”?
Wow.
This post was edited on 12/19/23 at 9:57 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:56 pm to
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Talk about this specific verse and it's different interpretation
God used divorce as a metaphor for His relationship with adulterous Israel (Jer. 3:8). In that passage, God said He divorced Israel.

Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:56 pm to
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I'm sorry what idols to we worship?



Every single statue in your churches that y’all kneel in front of to pray.
Posted by Nikki_T
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:57 pm to
This was something unimaginable up until now. I'm conflicted on this because I am God fearing and of the age of those who willingly accept this type of change without question. I'm often ostracized severely whenever I question anything in regards to it.


Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:58 pm to
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In the article you linked me, the Greek word used in the passage for justifying a divorce is” porneia” and somehow, my Bibles translating it into” sexual immorality” is wrong and it should instead be” unlawful”?
Wow.


actually read the article.
Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:58 pm to
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God used divorce as a metaphor for His relationship with adulterous Israel (Jer. 3:8). In that passage, God said He divorced Israel.


that's certainly an interpretation
Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:59 pm to
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Every single statue in your churches that y’all kneel in front of to pray.



I'll ask you to pray for me just like I'll ask the Saints and Mary to pray with me pray for you!
This post was edited on 12/19/23 at 10:00 pm
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:02 pm to
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actually read the article.


No need. The Greek makes the interpretation clear. I don’t need a Catholic apologist to try and explain it away.
I’m pretty sure the entire idea of annulments was concocted by clergy facing the wrath of some Catholic King who wanted his marriage to disappear
This post was edited on 12/19/23 at 10:03 pm
Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:03 pm to
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No need. The Greek makes the interpretation clear. I don’t need a Catholic apologist to try and explain it away.
I’m pretty sure the entire idea of annulments was concocted by clergy facing the wrath of some Catholic King who wanted his marriage to disappear



Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:07 pm to
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I’m pretty sure the entire idea of annulments was concocted by clergy facing the wrath of some Catholic King who wanted his marriage to disappear


Careful now, or you'll upset the Anglicans.
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:10 pm to
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that's certainly an interpretation
It sure is.

Divorce isn't good, but God allows it as a mercy to the victim of unfaithfulness.
Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:16 pm to
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Divorce isn't good, but God allows it as a mercy to the victim of unfaithfulness.



ok what about a coerced wedding. or a wedding that either person didnt gave the faculties to commit to a marriage?

or if a partner hid before the marriage that they weren't open to life (i.e. didnt want to have kids)

or one of the participants of the marriage had no real understanding of what a marriage was because of their upbringing (i.e. dad cheating on mom or vice versa).
This post was edited on 12/19/23 at 10:19 pm
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