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re: Poll: should Facebook, Twitter, etc be allowed to ban people for political speech?

Posted on 5/13/19 at 4:52 pm to
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 4:52 pm to
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Terms of service doesn’t trump protected classes. In this case, political affiliation is a protected class

Your hypothetical dream-world case?

Wtf, you should change the thread title
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45951 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 4:52 pm to
It's an interesting conundrum these proggy companies are in.

Don't censor and maintain "we're a platform and not responsible for content" in order to maintain immunity from lawsuit.

Censor to appease your SJW employees/backers/screeching blue check marks, and suddenly your defense against immunity is out the window. The SCOTUS really kicked these companies in the nuts today. And it was the left leaning Justices who did it.
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 4:54 pm
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52559 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 4:54 pm to
No
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33505 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 4:56 pm to
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Isn’t the issue with them censoring posts is that doing so makes them responsible for content and then opening themselves up to slander/libel lawsuits??

Yes. Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act says those editing content are publishers, and publishers are responsible for the content they create. If Facebook censors posts, it becomes responsible for the ones that remain or are posted at all. Which would result in tons of slander/libel
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45951 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 4:58 pm to
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Which would result in tons of slander/libel


Que the SCOTUS ruling today against Apple.

Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33505 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:00 pm to
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Your hypothetical dream-world case? Wtf, you should change the thread title

What I’m talking about doesn’t change the answer to the question. Everyone is to present their own view of it. It’s meant to be open ended
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:02 pm to
Are you really arguing that you shouldn't be able to regulate your own platform?

Are you really arguing that Facebook must publish every piece of garbage that gets posted, without recourse?

That terms of use don't apply?

The trump cult has not a single conviction, save for complete dedication to itself

Bake the gay cake.. You have to
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14497 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:05 pm to
No.

Political affiliation: MAGA
Political leanings: constitutional conservatism

There is no equivalent form of competition for Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter and that is the problem. Imagine if AT&T didn’t have any competition and just decided that you can’t say certain words or have certain political leanings or else your wireless service is cancelled. You would give a shite then.

Also consider that these social media giants advertise as platforms and not publishers. Platforms do not suppress the speech of particular groups of people. If you pick and choose who and what is allowed to be posted then you are a publisher.

Here’s where the spineless cuckservatives chime in “well if you don’t like it stop using or create competition.”

Facebook(owns Instagram), and Google control 80% of social media revenue. They won’t allow any competition. Sure you can create your own social media platform but you won’t be allowed to become mainstream. Also google will just ban the app from the play store like they did Gab citing “hate speech”. Apple will then follow suit.....who might I add was just permitted by the Supreme Court to be sued for monopolistic actions taken towards customers.

You have to then consider the biggest of all issues. The social media giants are colluding with each other to try and meddle in our elections. They know the truth bypassed the fake news media by means of social media and helped Trump win. By silencing conservatives they are actively trying to affect the outcome of our elections.

The people who say yes are going to be feeling like dumbasses once they lose the impact of their voice and only the opposition gets elected due to censorship.
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 8:00 pm
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:06 pm to
Should they legally? Yes. It's their business.

That aside should they as a matter of practice? No. It it will come back to bite them politically and economically.

Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:08 pm to
Yes

Can the New York Times refuse to print letters to the editor? Of course
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:11 pm to
How do you call yourself a Constitutional conservative???
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:12 pm to
Of course.

frick 'em

Stringent guidelines and bylaws and rules are the best way to tame unwashed swine. Americans who think the internet is the best place to air their unfiltered political speech are amongst the dirtiest of unwashed swine.

Crack that whip.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:12 pm to
Restaurants can refuse based on political affiliation if they are so stupid to do so.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45951 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:13 pm to
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Can the New York Times refuse to print letters to the editor? Of course


And they're legally responsible for the content of what they publish.

The issue at hand is right now the major social media platforms are not.

Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14497 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:14 pm to
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How do you call yourself a Constitutional conservative???


Hey guess what I’m gonna ask you when your voice and vote no longer matters?

“You still pretending to be a conservative?”

This is exactly how those establishment RINO pussies act in congress. They just play nice and let dems walk all over them.
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 5:17 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45951 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:14 pm to
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Americans who think the internet is the best place to air their unfiltered political speech are amongst the dirtiest of unwashed swine.

Crack that whip.


Just as long as I get to decide what constitutes unfiltered political speech, I'm 100% with you baw.

Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33505 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:15 pm to
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Are you really arguing that you shouldn't be able to regulate your own platform? Are you really arguing that Facebook must publish every piece of garbage that gets posted, without recourse? That terms of use don't apply? The trump cult has not a single conviction, save for complete dedication to itself Bake the gay cake.. You have to

You can regulate your own platform. But you can’t pick and choose. Either you take responsibility and censor as you want, or you let users post as they want and don’t take publisher responsibility. You can’t have it both ways. Which way should they have? You have to pick one Juice
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:16 pm to
Why not???
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:16 pm to
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Just as long as I get to decide what constitutes unfiltered political speech, I'm 100% with you baw.


Also denied.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33505 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:17 pm to
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Yes Can the New York Times refuse to print letters to the editor? Of course

The NYT is legally responsible for the material they publish. So you’re saying Facebook is as well?
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