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re: Poll commissioned by Ralph Abraham showcases how vulnerable JBE is next year for LA Gov

Posted on 12/14/18 at 7:12 pm to
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 7:12 pm to
Well lets play a fun game..... give me some concrete examples of where Bobby was better than JBE
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39210 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 7:22 pm to
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Q1: Do you think Louisiana is headed in the right direction or is it on the wrong track?

Right direction: 42%
Wrong track: 43%

basically dead even

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Q3: What is your opinion of John Bel Edwards? Favorable: 46%
Unfavorable: 40%

more favorable than unfavorable

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“Two things are clear from this poll: John Bel Edwards is a one-term governor, and I’m the man who can take him down.

I don't know which poll he's looking at but it isn't this one. No one in the state knows who he or Rispone are. Unless a Republican with some name value like Jeff Landry or Garrett Graves gets in the race, JBE has this one in the bag.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 7:34 pm to
I see you are still online yet not responding........
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 7:38 pm to
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Well lets play a fun game


Let's not.

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give me some concrete examples of where Bobby was better than JBE




You're either confused or just trying to deflect.

My position on Bobby Jindal is well known on this board and I'm not getting into that again and this thread is not about Jindal.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 7:38 pm to
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basically dead even


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more favorable than unfavorable


Uh JBE is the incumbent here in a bright arse red state and he's the one that has to defend his tax and spend track record against two conservatives that will likely not mud sling and attack each other like it's 2015.

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No one in the state knows who he or Rispone are.


That's the biggest problem for JBE.

He's tied with one of them and can't get above 50% against the other one and this campaign has even really started in full yet with ads on TV and mail, barnstorming around the state and debates.

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Unless a Republican with some name value like Jeff Landry or Garrett Graves gets in the race, JBE has this one in the bag.


He would disagree with you.

Louisiana has a history of electing Governors that has come out of nowhere like Dave Treen, Blanco, Buddy Roemer and JBE.

No democrat has won reelection as governor since the 70s.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39210 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 7:42 pm to
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Uh JBE is the incumbent here in a bright arse red state and he's the one that has to defend his tax and spend track record against two conservatives

Louisiana is not as red as people think it is. Economically speaking, we are very liberal. JBE hasn't pushed any pro gay or anti Catholic policies so the same Republicans that voted for him before will likely vote for him again. I just hope Abraham or Rispone hit him hard on threatening to cancel LSU football.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 7:49 pm to
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My position on Bobby Jindal is well known on this board and I'm not getting into that again and this thread is not about Jindal.


Well then GTFO telling me I should have voted for Vitter when you can't defend "Mr. Conservative" himself Jindal.

I've repeatedly said to you that Vitter was on a warpath with elected commissioners demanding public support or grave consequences.

I'm proud of voting against Vitter.

Don't ever come at me again talking about how we would be better off with Vitter. You don't know. You damn well thought we would have been better off under Jindal. We are far worse because of him and the cowards in the legislature
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 7:52 pm to
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Louisiana is not as red as people think it is.


I would argue that this state is like 40-45% ideological conservative like you would see across the south.

It's the moderates AKA RINOs that make up the other 10-15 of the GOP base that's going to determine the winner here and according to this poll quite a few of them are going to be voting against him.

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JBE hasn't pushed any pro gay or anti Catholic policies


Well this is just wrong.

He issued an executive order for LGBT protections for state contractors and the Louisiana supreme court threw it out.

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I just hope Abraham or Rispone hit him hard on threatening to cancel LSU football.


Easy pickings for sure.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
5840 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 7:52 pm to
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Jim Jordan Trump supporter or even a Rand Paul type Libertarian/conservative,


Is the future.

Government, stay out of my bedroom and my pocketbook. Marriage and Marijuana should be a state issue and no one should care what you do on your own time as long as you are not infringing on other people's rights.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 8:08 pm to
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Well then GTFO telling me I should have voted for Vitter when you can't defend "Mr. Conservative" himself Jindal.


Now you're just making shite up.

Jindal's failure isn't what he did but rather did not do.

He abandoned this state for a delusional, pie in the sky Presidential run that was dead in the water before it even started and refused to do his job and let the budget go tits up.

I will never forgive him for that.

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I've repeatedly said to you that Vitter was on a warpath with elected commissioners demanding public support or grave consequences.


Support.

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Don't ever come at me again talking about how we would be better off with Vitter.


I won't as long as you stop making shite up about me.

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You don't know.


I'm basing it on evidence of his stated conservative positions and I supported those conservative positions.

You're the one that voted against them by voting against the candidate.

So why are you angry over me thinking you're not a conservative at all when you actually voted for a liberal?

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You damn well thought we would have been better off under Jindal.


Never said that. Stop making shite up. It's a real bad habit for you.

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We are far worse because of him and the cowards in the legislature


On this, we actually agree.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36051 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 9:54 pm to
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Well lets play a fun game..... give me some concrete examples of where Bobby was better than JBE

Jindal never raised taxes 1.2 Billion dollars when the state economy was struggling and we were pushed into a recession.

Jindsl didn't expand Medicaid either leading to millions of dollars in payouts to unqualified folks.

But if you think JBE can run against Jindal again then you are mistaken. He has his own record now and he's vulnerable.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14341 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 4:19 am to
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Poll commissioned by Ralph Abraham
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25008 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 4:34 am to
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Definitely Edwards: 53%
Consider another Democrat: 25%
Not voting for a Democrat: 15%
Not sure: 7%


Damn. This actually surprises me. Louisiana democrats are generally more moderate -- they aren't your west coast lunatic progressive types. JBE isn't a progressive, so I would have expected his popularity here to be almost unanimous among the Dems.

That really does spell trouble for him if he can't even rally his base.
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