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re: please list the advantages of term limits
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:29 am to oldcharlie8
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:29 am to oldcharlie8
Prevents the empower building.
See all those politicians that are filthy rich on a government salary and creating the perks that nobody else can have.
See all those politicians that are filthy rich on a government salary and creating the perks that nobody else can have.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:29 am to LuckyTiger
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political lifers
why do you think that they're "lifers"?
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:30 am to SuperSaint
You lose the permanent ruling class...true, you will have a lot of good ole boy networks, but it will be at least different people and not 80 year olds rolling out there for their 30th term in congress.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:30 am to BIGFOOD
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imo, it limits the potential for lobbying and their influence over the officials.
Actually, it could increase the power of lobbyists. Officials lean on lobbyists already because a lobbyist is simply the subject matter expert on the issue. As an Official gets more time under their belt and understands the issues more fully, they could (in theory) not need the lobbyist SME. With term limits they'll never be able to adequately develop their own expertise in the issues before their time is up.
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it could help with all the corruption
Corruption will just move to other entities.
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you limit their power
Power will rest somewhere. Limiting the elected official's power will only move the power to unelected lobbyists or bureaucrats.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:30 am to oldcharlie8
Because they stay there for a very long time.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:30 am to Homesick Tiger
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That doesn't work and I explained why. Here's something else, if term limits are good enough to impose on a president then it's sure as heck good enough for those that put the restriction on the president's office also.
there's a few presidents, in my lifetime, that i wish had no term limits. you?
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:31 am to saints5021
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80 year olds rolling out there for their 30th term in congress.
because they keep getting voted in?
i'm confused.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:32 am to LuckyTiger
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Because they stay there for a very long time.
because they are voted in?
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:33 am to oldcharlie8
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please list the advantages of term limits
1) Power is decentralized from Washington D.C. thus giving you, the citizen, more power.
2) As one ages, so goes his faculties. Just listen to Leahy speak.
3) Longer you are in D.C., greater your chances of being corrupted by lobbyists or other power brokers.
4) Harder for special interest groups to purchase "favors" (again corruption) if you are not guaranteed a spot in DC.
In short, term limits give more power back to the citizens of this country and reduces the chance of corruption.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:33 am to oldcharlie8
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there's a few presidents, in my lifetime, that i wish had no term limits. you?
Reagan is the only one in my lifetime I'd had been okay with but with his age and memory starting to fade eight years was probably enough for him. Daddy Bush failed miserable with his campaign and having to eat his words on no new taxes for his second run.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:34 am to oldcharlie8
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there's a few presidents, in my lifetime, that i wish had no term limits. you?
No.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:34 am to BugAC
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2) As one ages, so goes his faculties. Just listen to Leahy speak.
and.......keeps getting voted in
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3) Longer you are in D.C., greater your chances of being corrupted by lobbyists or other power brokers.
yet.....keeps getting voted in
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4) Harder for special interest groups to purchase "favors" (again corruption) if you are not guaranteed a spot in DC.
damn.....got voted in again.
should we not vote anymore and just appoint?
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:35 am to Homesick Tiger
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Daddy Bush failed miserable with his campaign and having to eat his words on no new taxes for his second run
and........we voted him out.
no term limit for him
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:40 am to oldcharlie8
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explain
Already did. Incumbency breeds inertia.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:42 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Already did. Incumbency breeds inertia.
so....you think that we should just appoint then?
incumbency is the very definition of the people voting for the candidate again and again because WE the people want said candidate in office AGAIN.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 11:43 am
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:43 am to oldcharlie8
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please list the advantages of term limits
There are none.....dumbing down the Constitution is no way to go through life
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:47 am to oldcharlie8
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please give me your opinion on the advantages of term limits.
Our government would function as intended...and in budget
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:48 am to oldcharlie8
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no term limit for him
Sure there was, four more years was all he could serve.
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we voted him out.
As we did Carter after one term but politics weren't as polarized back then as nowadays. It's all about party of a politician and not his/her politics. Practically all of us are guilty of this in today's political climate, at least on a national level.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:49 am to ApexTiger
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Our government would function as intended...and in budget
so.....if you love your senator, and you think that he/she is kicking arse for you and your region, you'd be ok with him/her stepping down because the HAVE to and not because they were voted out?
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:50 am to oldcharlie8
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to allow someone to be "entrenched" is to keep voting them in.
vote them out.
cool, so should this also apply to the presidency?
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