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re: Please explain how the vaccinated can carry a high viral load without symptoms?

Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by Ex-Popcorn
Member since Nov 2005
2362 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:38 pm to
this is correct. They are currently working on a vaccine delivery system that administers the vaccine through the nasal passages to avoid the initial infection.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:39 pm to
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Again, its a new virus. They are coming up with the best guidance they can in that given moment


I believe the first sentence. After that I disagree with. It used to depend on who "they" were. Now, I find "them all" to be of dubious value.
Posted by CougarBait
on catnip in a cougar's den
Member since Jun 2007
2021 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:40 pm to
You’ve come to the right place. I only get my medical advice from message boards, Facebook, and essential oils housewives with anecdotal evidence.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125235 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:41 pm to
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Personally, when you're dealing with a new and evolving anything, I'd hope goalposts are moved when situations change.


Lol. The CDC doesn’t change based on evolving data. They change based on political expediency, cite some data point and the people who are inclined to believe it lap up the data point.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:48 pm to
Order of events

1. CDC completely fricked up beginning of pandemic. They then made up a bunch of shite to pretend to have a handle on the situation

2. The powers that be realized the cdc was literally making shite up and people were sort of listening, so they told the cdc to make shite up that could be used to their advantage politically.

3. The cdc then started trying to do reasonable things but sprinkle bullshite to further a goal

4. The cdc bullshite began to vastly outnumber the useful recommendations and they got used to lying

5. Biden won which then became an issue of “how do we make this less painful but not make it obvious we’re two timing shite lickers?”

6. Cases are going up and in an effort to not appear impotent after accusing trump of “doing nothing”, the powers that be want the cdc to return to step 2.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 2:48 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77942 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 2:48 pm to
I read that the mRNA vaccines' boost of IgA doesn't last as long as its boost of IgG. IgA plays a large role in mucous membrane immunity. IgG provides more systemic immunity. Hence, fair amoint of multiplication in the nose/throat but it doesn't usually progress systemically.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26355 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 3:02 pm to
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Also the biggest tell tale sign of Covid, loss of taste/smell, from what I’ve heard and experienced during this most recent surge did not happen right away but several days into the sickness.


That was the case for me. I was sick for about 4 days before I lost my taste and smell. That lasted for probably 2 weeks after I felt better.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21770 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 3:07 pm to
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Order of events

1. CDC completely fricked up beginning of pandemic. They then made up a bunch of shite to pretend to have a handle on the situation

2. The powers that be realized the cdc was literally making shite up and people were sort of listening, so they told the cdc to make shite up that could be used to their advantage politically.

3. The cdc then started trying to do reasonable things but sprinkle bullshite to further a goal

4. The cdc bullshite began to vastly outnumber the useful recommendations and they got used to lying

5. Biden won which then became an issue of “how do we make this less painful but not make it obvious we’re two timing shite lickers?”

6. Cases are going up and in an effort to not appear impotent after accusing trump of “doing nothing”, the powers that be want the cdc to return to step 2.

The big mistake they made was they ran this gambit, which has been in the hopper a while, on a virus that's pretty f'n tame for the vast majority of Americans. And once they started running the scam, it's not like they could pull back and wait for a better/more lethal virus - they were all in at that point. So they're "managing" Covid like it's the Spanish flu on steroids rather than what it actually is - a nothingburger for everybody but the very old/frail, the very very obese and people already with one foot in the grave due to ongoing disease(s).
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23342 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 3:41 pm to
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How do you expect the Fear Porn to work when people like you keep bringing up stuff like this?




Science has suddenly mutated into alt-right MAGA super-spreader!

Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23342 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 3:45 pm to
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Personally, when you're dealing with a new and evolving anything, I'd hope goalposts are moved when situations change.




Sorry, but that is not how it works.

The science is settled so you are anti-science!

There are rules that must be adhered to when we politicize science and demand heavy handed one-size fits all Statist solutions for everything,


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