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re: Pfizer data release. 1223 reported fatalities during 3-month period, out of 42K reports
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:22 am to the808bass
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:22 am to the808bass
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Now we’re discounting doctor’s clinical assessments because of your religion.
I’m discounting it because I see incorrect clinical assessments every single day. Most of my job is figuring out what mistakes in assessments other doctors made with respect to infectious diseases
The fact remains that there is an overwhelming body of evidence from well designed, large, controlled trials from all over the world demonstrating safety of the vaccines. At this point, the burden of proof is on those claiming there’s a pandemic of vaccine deaths. If a doctor claims his patient died of an incredibly rare event, it’s on him to show the evidence. The evidence that they are safe has already been presented and it’s, again, overwhelming.
And you really need to decide whether you have infinite faith or no faith in doctors.
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 1:25 am
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Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:26 am to Roger Klarvin
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If a doctor claims his patient died of an incredibly rare event, it’s on him to show the evidence. The evidence that they are safe has already been presented and it’s, again, overwhelming.
It would be nice if those doctors could get a call from the CDC. They don’t. Deep down you know why.
Don’t stop
Believing.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:27 am to Roger Klarvin
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When the actual controlled data refutes the claims someone might make based on the VAERS data, your options are to endorse the inferior information, attempt to refute it or ignore it.
You might want to review what the point of VAERS was in the first place and rethink your argument.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:33 am to the808bass
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It would be nice if those doctors could get a call from the CDC. They don’t. Deep down you know why.
First, many of them have. There are screenshots of correspondence between the CDC and concerned physicians all over social media.
Second, you seem to be under the misguided assumption that the CDC is obligated to responded to all such concerns from individual physicians. Allow me to assure you they are not
I’ll also point out that the claims of vaccine adverse events among their patients clusters in a very small percentage of physicians, which is especially peculiar when you realize most of that cluster are outpatient physicians outside of the most relevant specialties to covid. These are not the people you’d be expecting to be stumbling upon all the covid vaccine deaths if such a thing were prevalent. As you would say, deep down I suspect you know why that is.
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 1:35 am
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:43 am to the808bass
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You might want to review what the point of VAERS was in the first place
It’s meant to catch rare safety signals as part of large scale stage 4 monitoring. It is not meant to replace large controlled data sets. In the case of the covid vaccines, the actual body of academic data has become so large so quickly (faster than any vaccine or drug in history) that we have combined data sets which should start to pick up relatively rare safety signals and they just don’t. And you’re not even talking about rare safety signals, you’re claiming a rash of COVID vaccine deaths. You’re claiming this is the most dangerous vaccine ever produced. That certainly would be detected.
At this point the size and divergence of the two sets requires anyone looking at both to make a choice. VAERS is the data set without controls and without any sort of meaningful screening process. Moreover, demonstrable large scale manipulation has been documented in the VAERS system before with respect to the flu vaccine.
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 1:45 am
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:48 am to the808bass
And for the record, I’m being very generous in just glossing over the fact that you and almost everyone else here incorrectly thought this was brand new super duper secret Pfizer data pulled from them by a court order yesterday. It’s been out there for nearly 4 months and was released as essentially a long memo
The FOIA court ruling was in January and Pfizer still has another 7 months to produce the information.
The FOIA court ruling was in January and Pfizer still has another 7 months to produce the information.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:14 am to Open Your Eyes
Klarvin is a pawn, poster child for the shite show we used to call healthcare.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 4:46 am to Roger Klarvin
I'm all in on the safety and efficacy for the citizens that want it. I'm sure there's a lovely winter blend in the works.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 5:35 am to Evolved Simian
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Posted by Message Evolved Simian
Gotta love when a better than thou, smug arse liberal gets self owned. It’s beautiful
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 5:36 am
Posted on 3/2/22 at 5:42 am to Stingray
The percent dead to how many were jabbed at that point is likely higher than .03% so dr mangala fauci is hiding it.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 5:56 am to Evolved Simian
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You have uncovered the thing most common to antivaxxers. None are intelligent enough for simple arithmetic.
And we have figured out how utterly gullible window licking covidities are. Think about 10.7B doses for a second. So in a 3 month period they vaccinated 1.5 times the population of the world……dear Lord!
Posted on 3/2/22 at 6:14 am to Roger Klarvin
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Lots of doctors believe lots of things about their patients that are not true.
Look in the mirror much?
Now ask what the common threshold is for giving a drug a black box warning?
Posted on 3/2/22 at 6:23 am to Roger Klarvin
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And for the record, I’m being very generous in just glossing over the fact that you and almost everyone else here incorrectly thought this was brand new super duper secret Pfizer data pulled from them by a court order yesterday. It’s been out there for nearly 4 months and was released as essentially a long memo
The FOIA court ruling was in January and Pfizer still has another 7 months to produce the information.
Thank you. I knew I had seen this crap before.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 6:44 am to TOPAL
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Also, I believe they count you un-vaxxed until day 14.
You are considered unvaxxed until day 15 of the second dose.
Think about that one.
People with one dose and those with the second dose until after day 14 are considered unvaxxed.
If one dies from the jab between the first dose and day 15 of the second dose they are considered an unvaxxinated covid death.
When they are tested post mortem they have the covid antibodies from the jab and the jab is actually what killed them not covid. How sick is that???
Posted on 3/2/22 at 7:07 am to dswear
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Here's for Feb 28, 2021: (Reuters) - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said 75,236,003 doses of COVID-19 vaccines had been administered in the country as of Sunday morning and it had distributed 96,402,490 doses.
The OP was the Pfizer only adverse reactions report.
So your headline is for doses of all the different brands of vaccines administered.
Need to separate out the Pfizer doses administered to compare apples to apples with the OP.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 7:09 am to mmcgrath
Maograth and Dr Klarvin
Posted on 3/2/22 at 7:18 am to Roger Klarvin
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VAERS is the data set without controls and without any sort of meaningful screening process.
This is being silly. Mickey Mouse isn’t listed in VAERS. People with made up drug lots aren’t listed in VAERS. Thus the backlog.
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You’re claiming this is the most dangerous vaccine ever produced.
Link?
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That certainly would be detected.
The deaths caused by the vaccine are, to some extent, being detected. The FDA is purposefully ignoring them.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 7:34 am to SDVTiger
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Maograth and Dr Klarvin
Imagine still defending a company and vaccine despite the mounting evidence.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 10:02 am to stout
Thanks for posting this. I made an account on this site just because of this post. It should be criminal how this is being pushed on young people and children. It reminds me of a drug I read about called Thalidomide. I’m glad Tennessee is one of the least vaxed states in the country. Go VOLS
Posted on 3/2/22 at 11:21 am to teke184
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About 3% of the people taking the fricking thing died?!?
You're looking at this all wrong... this data showed it saved one life!!!! That's all we can hope for, it needs to save one life!!!!!
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