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Pew research data: white Catholics continuing to leave the dem party

Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:17 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:17 am
White Catholics historically have been either democrats (up until reagan) or a swing voter group. In the past decade or so, a stunning realignment took place and the group voted by a whopping 23 point margin for President Trump. To see how fast this stark trend took place, just consider the fact that in the year 2000, Albert Gore lost white Catholics by only 5 points.

There are decent german catholic populations in many key midwest swing states such as wisconsin and michigan. It will be difficult to win these states for democrats if they can't shed their image of being a party that doesn't respect faith.

You know a party has an image problem among catholics and protestants when DONALD TRUMP wins the groups by almost 2:1 margins.



LINK

Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:41 am to
Good to see them leaving the party of empty promises and evil.

Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26078 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:49 am to
I think a question that would be similarly interesting is this: How many white Democrats have left the Catholic Church?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:50 am to
I've said this before but I'll say it again. The Dems promote themselves as the big tent party where everyone is welcome. The problem is, the tent grew so diverse that the beliefs of different groups were at odds with each other. This made the Dems choose their course, and they did by going further left and away from people of faith.
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:53 am to
Not real Catholics if they were voting blue to begin with. No self respecting Catholic would vote for a party that supports all types of abortion.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:54 am to
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This made the Dems choose their course, and they did by going further left and away from people of faith.



That's not a bad long-term play.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:57 am to
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Not real Catholics if they were voting blue to begin with. No self respecting Catholic would vote for a party that supports all types of abortion.


There's plenty of positions from both parties that are against official church doctrine.
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:06 am to
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There's plenty of positions from both parties that are against official church doctrine.

They're called sins . But I get what you're saying. Would Jesus Christ have voted for Trump or Hillary? Hell no. Both of those fricks are evil.

But alas,we have to vote. Oh well, nothing a couple of "Our Fathers" and a drop in the collection box can't fix.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:31 am to
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That's not a bad long-term play.


If you don't mind hooking your cart to lunatics.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:14 am to
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That's not a bad long-term play.



because leftward movement is the easy way out and the avenue by which stale older societies destroy themselves

lack of standards, equality of results over rewarding excellence, easy excuses for failure, suppressing dissent at all costs, etc.

the core tenets of leftism
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69251 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:43 am to
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That's not a bad long-term play.
Catholics are only 1% less of the population than they were 16 years ago
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:56 am to
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Pew research data: white Catholics continuing to leave the dem party



Can you blame them?

Democrats are slowly losing ground with Jewish voters too.
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5343 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

I've said this before but I'll say it again. The Dems promote themselves as the big tent party where everyone is welcome. The problem is, the tent grew so diverse that the beliefs of different groups were at odds with each other. This made the Dems choose their course, and they did by going further left and away from people of faith.


The problem to me is the democrats focused on pitting groups against each other and vying for each groups support, they would give preferential treatment. That's a surefire way of getting a group that once supported them to leave them.
Posted by ewdij
LSU
Member since Jun 2006
1295 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:42 pm to
The same article also has another table (the last one) which states between 2000-2016 the % of Catholic voters have shrunk by over 11%, while the religiously unaffiliated have increased by 66%.

Democrats definitely need to fix the problem of more and more Catholics not voting for them. But in the same vein Republicans need to do something about the religiously non affiliated vote.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26676 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:54 pm to
It's tied in with them losing union voters. Lots of northern Catholics are union.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69251 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:56 pm to
It's not just the north.

Mike Dukakis won every single Cajun parish in 1988
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:57 pm to
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Not real Catholics if they were voting blue to begin with. No self respecting Catholic would vote for a party that supports all types of abortion.


So they should vote for the Republican party that openly supports capital punishment?

You can't be a single issue voter because you are forced to completely ignore other stances that will go against Catholic doctrine.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81376 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:58 pm to
So proud to be living in this area with patriotic Trump voting German Lutherans and Jews in WI, MI, and MN
Posted by Keyser_Jose
Member since Oct 2014
15 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:02 pm to
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So they should vote for the Republican party that openly supports capital punishment?

You can't be a single issue voter because you are forced to completely ignore other stances that will go against Catholic doctrine.

Catholic here. I'm Pro-Life for sure, and I struggle with capital punishment, but not as much as I struggle with abortion.

To me, Hilary represented an express lane to more abortions. Not to mention there were Podesta emails which had her saying derogatory things about Catholics in general.

I voted for Trump because that was the absolute most I could do as a voter to keep Hilary out of office.

I know many other Catholics that did the same.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16875 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:06 pm to
This is interesting since hispanics, the fastest growing demographic segment in America, tend to be Catholic.


All the years of open borders might have provided just enough rope for the dems to hang themselves.
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