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Peter Schiff says we are early in the biggest bond market crash in U.S. history
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:19 am
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:19 am
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As I've been warning, we are still early in the biggest #bond market crash in U.S. history. Every government, corporation, landlord, and family that has been relying on cheap debt to survive will die. When the #Fed tries to save their lives, it will kill them with #inflation.
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Investors still don't get that long-term bond yields are out of the Fed's control. Even if the #Fed decides to pivot to prevent yields from rising too much, rate cuts and a return to QE will cause the #dollar to sink and #inflation to soar. That scenario is bearish for #bonds.
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10-Year Treasury yields closed just below 4.7%. Soon the yield will be above 5%, its highest level since 2001. Once that level is taken out, the move up to 7.5%, the 1994 high, should be very quick. After that the next resistance level is the 1987 high yield of just under 10%.
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#Gold is down again as clueless traders cling to the false narrative that rising bond yields are bearish. In contrast, they ensure not only a hard landing, but a financial crisis, skyrocketing federal budget deficits, soaring unemployment, and massive QE. #Inflation is bullish!
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We are still early in what will become the biggest bond market crash in U.S. history. Given that the U.S. economy is more levered now then at any time in history (governments, corporations, and individuals,) the coming economic and financial crisis will be unprecedented in size.
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The financial crisis we are about to experience will be much worse than anything that happened in 2008, yet Wall Street and the #Fed are even more clueless now than the were then. If they had any clue as to the magnitude of the impending disaster, #gold prices would be soaring.
He's also very pessimistic on the economy overall
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Are mainstream investors finally figuring out just how screwed everyone is? After years of the kicking the can down the road, the #Fed has arrived at an ominous fork. No matter which path it takes, it leads to imminent disaster. It's just a matter of which poison the Fed picks.
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When the #economy weakens significantly, including large monthly #job losses, rate cuts will be inappropriate, as this will likely coincide with a pick up in #inflation. Any attempt to stimulate the economy with rate cuts or QE will backfire, as it will also stimulate inflation.
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When the #Fed eventually returns to continuous QE to artificially suppress borrowing costs for the Federal Government, this time the extra #inflation created will raise borrowing costs for just about everyone else, crushing the private sector and state and local governments.
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The Prime Rate is now 8.5%, the highest since it hit 9% in 2001. Prime hasn't exceeded 10% since the 1980s. Many loans are set at prime plus a premium. From 2008 to 2022 Prime was mostly 3.5%. The record high was 19.5% in 1981. I believe that the high this cycle will exceed 20%.
He is also pretty salty about his bank still
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Corrupt Governments and the media destroyed my bank with lies. The truth will come out in court. I'll then be able to fully expose this fraud so the entire world will be able to see how fake news is manufactured. You can't believe anything that comes out of the mainstream media.
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:25 am to stout
So, bottom line we are fricked and the more the government tries to stand in the way of the crash, the harder the crash is going to be?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:27 am to stout
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He's also very pessimistic on the economy overall
As is anyone who is intellectually honest. But Yellen et all think we are fine and that a shutdown would cause a recession.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:29 am to stout
Remember when schiff for brains told us Bitcoin was worthless
The doom and gloom sells hard
The doom and gloom sells hard
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:29 am to stout
Is this how he got his nickname of Dr. Doom?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:30 am to The Maj
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So, bottom line we are fricked and the more the government tries to stand in the way of the crash, the harder the crash is going to be?
There is no soft landing. I said this months ago as has anyone with a brain. The longer they try for the soft landing, the more the middle class gets eaten alive.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:31 am to SDVTiger
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Remember when schiff for brains told us Bitcoin was worthless
Looking at the current state of crypto I wouldn't say he was wrong
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:32 am to stout
If we weren't on the brink of WWIII he would be correct. The powers that be know this. It isn't an American problem, it is a world wide problem.
There will be a crash, WWIII will happen, and then what is left? Who knows. People better get ready for a ride rougher than anything they have seen.
There will be a crash, WWIII will happen, and then what is left? Who knows. People better get ready for a ride rougher than anything they have seen.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:33 am to SDVTiger
I've read a lot of the alt-economic doom porn for about 20 years. Schiff is definitely one of the top sellers. I do think it's all going to come crashing down at some point, but I'm too dumb to know exactly why/when. The only debate in my mind has always been hyperinflation v deflationary crash.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:34 am to stout
I mean its sitting at 27k
Im not saying this wont be rough but this guy is on Robert Kiyosaki levels of doom
Im not saying this wont be rough but this guy is on Robert Kiyosaki levels of doom
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:34 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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People better get ready for a ride rougher than anything they have seen.
How?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:34 am to stout
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There is no soft landing.
Oh I agree... The economy has been falsely held together for too long...
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The longer they try for the soft landing, the more the middle class gets eaten alive.
Well, they are trying for a softer landing for themselves and really don't care if the middle class is used to cushion their soft landing...
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:35 am to stout
I thought you were bullish on Crypto? And wouldn't these events logically make crypto even more attractive to the average person. Especially if our currency is devalued.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:36 am to The Maj
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Well, they are trying for a softer landing for themselves and really don't care if the middle class is used to cushion their soft landing...
Just because they think they will get a soft landing doesn’t mean it will happen that way.
When people see they got fricked while the connected came out OK, shite may get real.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:38 am to teke184
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When people see they got fricked while the connected came out OK, shite may get real.
Eh, as long as they keep a mechanism to feed the leeches in society in place through the crash, I doubt there will be enough people pissed enough to do what would be necessary...
Of course, hunger is a hell of a motivator...
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:38 am to teke184
Why would they be talking about a soft landing anyway. I've been told by this administration that the economy is wonderful
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:40 am to SDVTiger
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I mean its sitting at 27k
I wouldn't say he was 100% wrong on Bitcoin. Considering the volatility it's a horrible store of value, the transaction cost and time make it not feasible for transactions outside of grey markets, etc.
Also as a utility Bitcoin is worthless.
I like crypto and don't care for Schiff so I am not defending him. I am just looking at it in realistic terms and saying he wasn't 100% off if you look at Bitcoin beyond the market price. There are better coins out there such as Eth.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:41 am to stout
Is he they guy that's been predicting this for the last 20 years?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:42 am to Broke
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And wouldn't these events logically make crypto even more attractive to the average person.
I like crypto but I am also a realist.
Name me a crypto you trust as a store of value that is less volatile than any other means.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:42 am to Earnest_P
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How?
To get ready? Not to sound like a prepper, but prep - dehydrated food, weapons, know how to grow your own food, have a plan for getting out if civilization breaks down. You know, the basics.
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