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re: Persia is the modern day Iran, and Babylon, modern day Iraq
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:45 pm to Mo Jeaux
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:45 pm to Mo Jeaux
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I don't know how to react to this. You see it this way only because of your religious beliefs. Russia is also a significant state and has been one for a much longer time than Israel. Is that God's sovereign will too?
God never claimed the Russians as his people nor did he promise to set up his throne in Moscow like he said he would in Jerusalem.
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:53 pm to Revelator
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:54 pm to TTOWN RONMON
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The Wise men knew, it was in prophesy, also at that time men only got the blood placed on their sins periodically, so they could not get as close to God as we can now via a continual flow of the holy spirit, thus is why the Prophets of God had to go out into the Desert/Wilderness to get away from other men's influences. This is also why some modern day prophets get this wrong a bit even when they get it right. Trump was always going to be reelected, just not in 2020, they were right technically, but why did they also kinda get it wrong? Modern day men of God have to preach the word to save souls, that JOB-1, so we must needs stay amongst men. So, those same people who heard Trump was going to win a second term, could not hear the negative because even when I saw trepidation, they forced it to be the 2020 election because other men were pushing them, they did not want to hear he was going to have the 2020 election stolen, but that was God's plan all along. BUT the point us the word was there to be heard. God's spirit will always reveal truths.
One old Man saw baby Jesus and knew he was the Messiah then he died. Prophesy says Jesus will be born in Bethlehem, but it also says "My son will come out of Egypt" and Jesus parents fled to Egypt then returned when he was 2 years old. No Prophesy has ever failed. PERIOD. The difference in now and 2000 to 2500 years ago is God has now poured out His spirit. PLUS........get this.........we have it made, their studies had to be by hand, books in Libraries, some 100s of miles away, or they had to trust the Pharisees etc. the the so called "Learned Men" who Jesus warned were devils !! Now-a-days we have all this info at our fingertips, I was debating GROK on Daniel 12 just a month or so ago. We also have the rearview mirror effect, WE KNOW how it all matches up because we are living at the very end and can look back and see how everything went down. Prophesy is east to me, I can explain the whole book of Revelation in one post.
God told Daniel He was going to LOCK UP the INFO until the END remember? So, things Daniel were never told is being revealed now. Why? Because it is germane to our generation, Israel needs to know what is going to go down after the Rapture. The bible says 1/3 of the Jews repent so what 5-6 million, then those will flee into the Petra/Bozrah region. The 2/3 will die. God gave us Prophesy for 2 reasons, to inform us on future events and to GLORIFY Himself, to prove He knows the beginning from the ending.
Israel is a miracle nation, they should not have survived. The USA is a miracle nation, George Washington only beat the Brits because it was Providence.
Despite all this knowledge we have...there still is no consensus on end times predictions. This was done on purpose. Again you are naming names and people/places. Some of the things you are harping about could and probably were things that happened during the lives of the Disciples. I think its peak foolishness to point at scripture prophecy and say "because of this prophecy, we should be doing X in this foreign conflict" That is no different than what first century Jews were doing.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:55 pm to Revelator
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God never claimed the Russians as his people nor did he promise to set up his throne in Moscow like he said he would in Jerusalem.
It always amazes me how every group of people in history have claimed that their own particular God(s) have made them the most important people. It's almost as if they themselves wrote their own holy texts.
Other than Scofield Christians that is I guess. They latch on to the Jews in some weird cuck-like fetish.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:56 pm to Revelator
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God never claimed the Russians as his people
He most certainly did. There are many Christians in Russia
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:58 pm to Mo Jeaux
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It always amazes me how every group of people in history have claimed that their own particular God(s) have made them the most important people. It's almost as if they themselves wrote their own holy texts.
I’m simply telling that Jehovah God made the Jews his people and Jerusalem his throne, not Russia. It was an answer to your question
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:59 pm to TTOWN RONMON
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We also have the rearview mirror effect, WE KNOW how it all matches up because we are living at the very end and can look back and see how everything went down. Prophesy is east to me, I can explain the whole book of Revelation in one post.
It's almost as if you're confirming some biases that you have by jamming events into vague and ambiguous Biblical passages. I'm glad it's so easy for you. Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:00 pm to scottydoesntknow
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He most certainly did. There are many Christians in Russia
We aren’t talking about salvation that was later offered to the gentiles after the Jews rejected it. We are talking about what nation and people was specifically called God’s chosen in the Bible.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:00 pm to scottydoesntknow
Double post
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:02 pm to Mo Jeaux
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You have the (nominally secular) Israelis still driven by their Zionist tripe based on some “God’s chosen people” fairy tale
I don't think they believe that at all. But it's an effective tool to manipulate evangelicals in the US so they use the shite out of it.
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This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:03 pm to Revelator
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People can scoff, but Bible prophecy is being played out before us in real time
And happening at a faster pace then many think.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:07 pm to Revelator
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I’m simply telling that Jehovah God made the Jews his people and Jerusalem his throne, not Russia. It was an answer to your question
Of course he did. The Jewish people wrote that book.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:18 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Of course he did. The Jewish people wrote that book.
You’d think they would have made themselves out to be heroes instead of villains right?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:22 pm to Revelator
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You’d think they would have made themselves out to be heroes instead of villains right?
I mean, did they? Surely you're not suggesting that they're the only ones who have pointed out what could happen to themselves when they don't obey the will of [the] God(s), right? If so, there are some religious texts (and more secular texts) from other traditions that I can point you to.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:32 pm to Mo Jeaux
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mean, did they? Surely you're not suggesting that they're the only ones who have pointed out what could happen to themselves when they don't obey the will of [the] God(s), right?
Well I noticed the Jews didn’t promise themselves 70 virgins in the afterlife or their own planets like the Mormons.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:02 pm to Revelator
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I don’t pretend to be a historical or biblical scholar, but this is my understanding of both Iran and Iraq. If this is correct, the Bible has lots to say about both, and how they will be used in the last end times scenario.
People can scoff, but Bible prophecy is being played out before us in real time
Great post! Although many around here spiritual eyes are covered. I agree with you, and regardless how much we discuss, argue, etc., and regardless of how much good battles evil, the stage is set and nothing will change it.
Good fights the good fight, as we should, but in the end..... we know whats going to happen.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:06 pm to Mo Jeaux
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The funniest part about all of this is that it’s religious wackos on all sides that are part of the problem.
You have the wacko theocracy in Iran driven by their Shia Madi tripe.
You have the (nominally secular) Israelis still driven by their Zionist tripe based on some “God’s chosen people” fairy tale, and then Revelator and the other fundamentalist Christian wackos feel left out, so then feel the need to chime in too.
You leave out the worst offenders. Satanist aka Clintons, Soros, Bush 1 and Bush 2, Obama, Rothschilds, Royalty in England, Macron and on and on. All true devil worshippers.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:30 pm to JimEverett
quote:quote:This prophecy is different from Cyrus taking over Israel? Genuinely curious.
Specifically that Iran will become if the nations in a group of nations that will attack Israel in the Last days
I wasn’t sure what was going on here but I saw attack and Cyrus and it caught my eye. Cyrus of Persia never attacked Israel. Cyrus was the Lord’s messiah meant to be a replacement for the Jewish kings.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:40 pm to Rip Torn
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Jesus says he nor the angels know the day or time of his return only the Father in Heaven
Right. Jesus is an angel of God, and he is subordinate to God, taking the form of a slave, being killed, resurrected by God, and being highly exalted and earning a seat at the right hand of God. The Father is greater than him, and he doesn’t know what the Father knows and he is only doing the will of his Father. He was the firstborn of creation begotten of the Father.
But he is the same deity as his father and became a sacrifice to pay himself as a ransom to himself for creating sin and death. And he’s co-equal with his father and was never created and always existed.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:44 pm to olemc999
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Ezekiel 38-39 also says that God intervenes and defeats the attackers. So why are we wasting our money and soldiers if God is supposed to step in and solve the problem?
Don’t try to figure out God. Sometimes he defeats the bad guys himself with hailstones and fire from the sky and drowning in a sea. Sometimes he helps the Israelites in battle but is sometimes still defeated. Sometimes he doesn’t help at all and the Israelites win on their own. Sometimes he punishes his Israelite armies by killing them in a plague or something or having the Babylonians and Assyrians kill them all for some transgression from a few people. He works in mysterious ways. He creates peace and evil - he does all these things.
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